Xbox 720 to have persistent Internet connection?

[PurpleGaga27 40]

WTF? I don't think Bill Gates would approve this if he was MS CEO.

 

Source: http://www.slashgear.com/sources-reinforce-rumors-that-microsofts-next-xbox-requires-constant-internet-connection-08276891/

 

If this rumor is true, then this may mark the beginning of the end of great console gaming (or should I say the beginning of the end of Microsoft?). Sony PS4 might follow MS dumbest idea ever and as for Nintendo, they would probably never do that. Consoles should never ever follow PC requirements at all times. What happens if there are server issues like what happened to the PC versions of Diablo 3 and SimCity? Customers will get angry and dissatisfied.

 

 

[Plok 327]

Sometimes I want to cry over the fate of gaming.

[Sonic 295]

I really don't see the big deal. My Xbox 360 and PS3 are connected to the internet when I'm using them, so is the computer. Why do people kick up a fuss about this all the time?

[Plok 327]

Why would Sony, Microsoft, EA and all other pro-infinite-net-connection guys have to know what and when you're playing games (or doing anything, for that matter)?

[AZ-Stalker 88]

Such a thing as privacy in gaming is going extinct. And if some spacial anomaly, zombie apocalypse, internet server failure or ANYTHING happens to your internet connection, it's game over. In relation to the always-online issue for example, you can't play Mass Effect 3 on a PC (singleplayer!) if you don't have an internet connection and some people aren't as fortunate to always be able to connect online or at a low cost for that matter. Also, I wouldn't like any company forcefully or covertly getting feedback on what games I play and how I play them. If the world wide web should ever go down due to some cataclysm or natural disaster spread, at least some major server parts of the world... Gaming would go to hell if we needed to be online to play things.

I'm just rambling in relation to Plokite_Wolf's post, anyway. "Down with always-online!" - as in down with GDI... it even rhymes.

Edited April 8, 2013 by AZ-Stalker

[Nmenth 291]

Sonic, that is a horrible argument, just because I am always online doesn't mean it should be a requirement. All apocalyptic scenarios aside; even if my internet has a dedicated direct link to my games' servers with 28 back up lines buried under concrete and lead plates doesn't mean a constant connection should be required.

[AZ-Stalker 88]

I would also just like to add an example. I can reinstall and play both singleplayer and multiplayer (LAN) modes with older games and nothing can stop me other than a massive hardware/software technological leap forward with WinXP and Win7 becoming extinct, and even then, people would find ways to play the oldies. Though if I were to have a legit copy of Mass Effect 3 or some other newer game for example which requires a constant connection to, say, EA servers... what if EA shuts down and their servers get scrapped? Companies don't last forever, and by dying out they coldly show gamers the middle finger of ever replaying the games they bought (unless they generouslly put a backup standalone system in place). Games that can be played right out of the box without any outside "help" along with games that have LAN or simillar functions (for standalone multiplayer) don't have that type of fear embeded into them. The more a game functions by itself on a machine, the longer it's lifespan to put it in simplistic terms. Company servers that provide singleplayer or multiplayer game modes get shut down - and it's lights out for that section of gaming. The internet goes down? Oh, sorry, you can't play alone because you have no internet connection. Oops... you can never replay that game again because it was an online service and you need us to last forever to play - sorry!.

 

I want my games to last a long long time on their own with no strings attatched. Period.

 

Also, please excuse me if I've gotten a bit out of hand and off topic. I needed to get that out of me.

Edited April 8, 2013 by AZ-Stalker

[Sonic 295]

Sonic, that is a horrible argument, just because I am always online doesn't mean it should be a requirement. All apocalyptic scenarios aside; even if my internet has a dedicated direct link to my games' servers with 28 back up lines buried under concrete and lead plates doesn't mean a constant connection should be required.

 

I'm not arguing the point, I simply just don't give a ****. Mostly because these are all rumours anyway. In the end it will be the consumers that decide the fate of their next consoles, so rather than bitch about it on a forum, let your wallet do the talking. In other words, don't buy the new consoles when they hit retail.

[Nmenth 291]

Fine... that's a horrible statement you made which happened to be contrary to previous statements.

 

And that whole "let your wallet do the talking" thing is just as bad:

• By the time your money gets a say, it will be too late, the product will already be out in stores.
• Since the company never saw any complaints beforehand, all they can do is lose money without warning.
• The best you could hope for by this point is the next generation will rectify the problem, though by then people will get used to being controlled.
• Your wallet probably won't talk then anyway, as if you had any intention to buy it, you will most likely cave in to the temptation and buy it anyway.

Of course, you might wonder how voicing your opinion on CNCNZ.com is going to make a difference. Ideally, everyone would do it where the company is most likely to see it. Nevertheless, I'm sure there are people in marketing or something that might have a look around the internet to judge people's reactions, additionally, it should be emphasized how this is a bad idea for the benefit of those who don't care; as a world of apathy is perfect for enforcing ridiculous regulations.

 

I might point out that I couldn't care less about Xbox, I've never owned one and it is quite likely I never will. What I do care about is the move to always-online requirements, which offers virtually no benefit to the user.

[Plok 327]

'm not arguing the point, I simply just don't give a ****. Mostly because these are all rumours anyway. In the end it will be the consumers that decide the fate of their next consoles, so rather than bitch about it on a forum, let your wallet do the talking. In other words, don't buy the new consoles when they hit retail.

It's not just the consoles, too. More and more PC games need online connections.

[Guest Stevie_K]

It is an opportunity for the industry to fight back piracy after all these years. What I don't understand is why they don't just say it like it is, instead of attempting to cover it up with vague arguments.

 

Increased security; less privacy. Of course, people tend to make "always online" with these new consoles sound way worse than it actually is. It will open up opportunities for new companies to sell competing consoles that doesn't require "always online".

[Luk3us 63]

I've yet to see a game that required an constant internet connection actually ADD anything to the experience.

[PurpleGaga27 40]

Looks like Ubisoft may be heading towards MS and EA direction: http://pixelenemy.com/ubisoft-montreal-ceo-suspects-gamers-are-ready-for-always-online/

 

The "always online" would mean one thing, the progress data and achievements on the hard drive and gaming privacy are no longer recognizable, meaning that saved data, progress and achievements must be dependable on the Internet with no resets.

[AZ-Stalker 88]

Just great.

Well, I'm off to commit suicide.

Edited April 15, 2013 by AZ-Stalker

[Plok 327]

Just great.

 

Well, I'm off to commit suicide.

Why? And miss the looks on their faces when things flop in a few years' time?

[AZ-Stalker 88]

Why? And miss the looks on their faces when things flop in a few years' time?

Eh, you're probably right.

[Doctor Destiny 41]

There is a misnomer here. You can play the 720 while offline. However, when you are online, it will be sending data back consistently. That's all it is.

 

The dude trying to say that persistent connection on Twitter... he got fired from Microsoft not too long ago.