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Cheap TV screens and refresh rates

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When I had a PS4 I was playing on a 22 inch Panasonic screen that I bought for a pittance of $300 NZD. I've never owned a proper screen so I don't know what it's like, though I'm sure it's 1 million times better for your eyes and response time, the cheap screens don't pan a scene nicely. For future reference I'd like to know what you guys insist on, as I'm aware that millisecond response times were once 8ms, then 4ms. What should be the minimum (in your opinion) for games, particularly action games like FPS or racing? In the future I'd like to buy a screen that has proper features. With my current AOC screen, not only is it cheap but it lacks audio support - headphones plugged in are automatically 100% volume and it should have a master volume, because some thing don't, like my friend's PS3 that I borrowed.

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5ms is about as high as you want to go with response time usually, but you can go higher if the refresh rate is high quality. If you're only playing console games, 60 hz is as high as you'd want to go. Higher and the returns diminish greatly. Don't use audio from monitors. It's garbage. Use real speakers.

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I'd like to know what the preferred brands are for users here. For large TV screens it seems that Sony and LG are popular now. As for PC monitors someone showed me a View Sonic with a quick refresh rate (1ms/4ms I think). Do any of you insist on a particular brand?

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One word.... well a logo.....

 

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The only Sony product worth buying is a PS4 ;)

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My flatmate has a Sony Bravia, I don't know how old it is but oddly I managed to get sound to it, from a Playstation 3, but not the video. It's useless to me! I'll take your word on Samsung. In a few years I'll have to reassess the cheap stuff that I own and get a dual monitor configuration for gaming/programming (complete with 2x swivelling monitor stands). I suspect the trick is to avoid large stores, partly because they tend to specialise in stocking 60 inch TVs that they market to yuppies. For a PC screen I reckon order online, otherwise Oliffs or Dragon PC.

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Samsung TVs are okay. Not the greatest but they work. I don't really buy TVs anymore so I couldn't really say who makes the best. I tend to go with LG or Visio on TVs anyway.

 

For monitors, go with any brand that's at least well known. You can try a dirt cheap model but those usually lead to less than stellar results. I prefer LG and AOC for midrange, affordable IPS panels. ViewSonic is good for dirt cheap TN panels if you're not worried about color fidelity. If you want high end, ASUS ROG or Acer Predator. Surprisingly, Dell and HP make good monitors as well so take that for what it's worth.

 

And avoid Sony. Everything they make now is garbage. You can find better for the same price.

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Got an Acer GN246HL 24in 1920x1080 144Hz monitor, totally worth. 

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6 hours ago, Doctor Destiny said:

ViewSonic is good for dirt cheap TN panels if you're not worried about color fidelity

 

I use a ViewSonic 24" screen for my desktop computer. Bright, rich and vibrant colours. Works great.

 

6 hours ago, Doctor Destiny said:

And avoid Sony. Everything they make now is garbage.

 

Does that include PlayStations? :haha:

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Sonic if you've seen a TN and IPS side by side at least once you'll never get a TN again.

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Well, I'm a sony fanboy. I've currently been waiting over a year for a Sony X9300D 65" 4K UHD HDR TV to come down in price... I'm looking for a sub AUD$3000 price tag. It started at $5k.

I'm patient. Well kind of... every day I think about changing my mind!

Although I really curious about the new tv's they brought out at the CES this year. A TV that has no speakers and projects sound through the glass!

Computer monitors are another story... have no idea.

 

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Good news lads, I'm buying a View Sonic with a 5ms refresh rate, 1440 vertical resolution and 80,000,000:1 Contrast Ratio. I thought that anything new was good, but that isn't true. There's a massive difference in quality so I'm getting a good screen this time. It's a 27". I'm told that support from View Sonic is good - if orange starts to display as yellow, they will simply give you a new screen. I was going to buy this yesterday but the shop told me that it's impossible to carry, probably due to lots of packaging and polystyrene. It's only 6 kilograms but the size of the box makes it impractical to carry. View Sonic may be considered average by some gamers but so long as I don't get headaches or eye-strain then I'm happy. I don't plan to play any really fast action games so I'm less concerned about refresh rates and more concerned about colour quality. Refresh rate is only one spec to measure.

I bought an A-Data solid state drive while at the shop and everything is really fast now, I notice a huge difference in 8 Bit Armies including when the game world initially loads, there is no laggy delay for 5 seconds while things are still loading - when you see the HQ and your load-out units, it has actually finished loading.

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So from your description it seems it's a VX2778-smhd doesn't even look bad as long as you're ok with 60hz and don't want to overclock it.

Can't say anything about the ssd other than adata isn't a manufacturer I would have gone with.

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I've used a 24" ViewSonic VA2448 since December 2012, works great, zero problems.

7 hours ago, Lauren said:

Can't say anything about the ssd other than adata isn't a manufacturer I would have gone with.

I also have an Adata SSD. Again no problems. Just because they are cheaper brands it doesn't make them rubbish.

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On ‎4‎/‎29‎/‎2017 at 8:50 AM, Sonic said:

I've used a 24" ViewSonic

Naturally. ;)

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For SSD there is also San Disk and Samsung. The shop I bought it from insists on supplying A-Data, because they've never experienced a problem with A-Data.

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I've used many Adata products over the years. The SSD of course, an SD card for a Sony Cybershot camera. An old computer I had years ago used Adata RAM. Never had an issue with any of them.

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What's the deal with the game settings on this monitor? There are settings like FPS-1, FPS-2, RTS and MOBA. If I use RTS mode, it wrecks the colours and makes everything blurry. I'm going to guess that in 'movies' it displays more black shades, and in FPS maybe it has higher brightness. RTS mode remains a mystery!

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Seems in RTS and MOBA modes a sharpen filter is applied to the image to make units more visible. At least that's most reviews state.

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