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Various C&C errors

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Recently, I've gotten my hand on TD which I've never finished but decided to try. Problem is, I'm having an extremely annoying problem on my laptop; namely, an application error saying that an instruction on 0x6057fc60 can't read its own address. Both the error and the address are the exact same across TD, TS and RA2. On a freshly booted system, I can play for about half an hour before the error pops up and subsequent restarts of the games steadily decrease the average time until the next error to the point I once got an error after less than two minutes of gameplay. All three are fully patched with no mods, cracks, etc. TS and RA2 have Firestorm and YR installed and their ini files tweaked to run them at 1280x800. TD is set to Win95 compatibility mode; setting it to anything higher will display the error message out of focus so I can't even click OK but have to kill the process manually.

 

Aside from this, Renegade is acting up too: bringing up the objectives screen and scrolling over any of the buttons at the bottom instantly exits to the desktop with no error message. The logfile in the Renegade folder is empty.

 

Generals, TW and RA3 go flawlessly with no errors or crashes.

 

What gives? I have no idea what's causing these.

 

What it MIGHT be:

1. The application errors usually trigger when I scroll the map or something happens (giving orders is the most frequent culprit but it also popped up once when I put a building down in TD) so I suspect it could be a driver issue.

2. I have WinXP with a "tweaked" version of DX10 installed to get full throttle from my video card. It might be messing things up but TD's older than DirectX so it's unlikely.

 

What it's NOT: I read about the trouble the MS Office Alternate Imput thingy causes for TD and uninstalled it. No change in the errors.

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Are you using Nyer's cnc-ddraw fix thingy? I know that handles a ton of errors and issues in TD and RA. And are you using the original discs or TFD? In either case, have you gotten the updates Nyer's created and provided? I know those fix many issues like these as well.

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Original discs, no TFD.

I'll look after those updates but the error's presence in both game engines suggests the problem is with my machine.

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If you have XP Service Pack 3, Vista or 7, older games must be set to compatibility modes for Windows 98/Me, NOT 95. I only tested 95 on RA1, it will crash in the first minute at the very best. YR requires that mode to run at all, otherwise you won't pass the loading screen.

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I have XP SP3 but I wrote it above: if I set TD to Win98 compatibility mode, the error message appears out of focus (or to be more exact, it gives an out-of-focus error message and OKing that gives the same application error it does at Win95 mode) and alt-tab stops working so I'll have to kill the process via task manager. It won't stop the error from occuring in the first place.

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Well, Nyerguds' 1.06c rev1 patch and cnc-ddraw should do the trick. As for TS/FS and RA2/YR, I don't think that there is any other possibilty (unless you reinstall).

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TS and RA2 can be picky when it comes to resolutions that game doesn't natively support, though with the hires switch it may support that. I have a widescreen monitor, but still play the game at 1024x768 because it's a natively supported default resolution. TS and RA2 both need to use the W98/ME compatibility setting, not W95. I have the main executables that run those games set to use W98 and they run fine. However, if you're seeing these types of errors with increasing frequency we could be talking about a hardware error. I suggest grabbing a copy of memtest and running it. If it finds issues, that's what your problem is.

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OK, I applied Nyerguds' magic and TD no longer gives errors. Checked TS and it's already set to use W98 mode. However, I only saw the error once in TS so it might have been a one-off occasion (previous to that, TS ran for over an hour broken by an unrelated [i think] IE).

 

I was trying to use widescreen because the screen gets too stretched horizontally. Plus 1280x800 is the maximum supported resolution of my display and is the native desktop resolution. RA2 still does around 70 FPS on that resolution, TS performs in the hundreds.

 

Memtest could be problematic as my laptop doesn't have one of them ancient relics known as floppy drives. I could put the stuff on my external HD and try to boot from that. Not much point to it, though; I don't think the laptop's RAM can be swapped and I already looked around whether there's any way to tell Win to exclude a specified address from the RAM, no such luck. I also looked around in System Information and the hardware-reserved address spaces aren't even close to the affected one.

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Laptop RAM can be swapped like desktop RAM, unless you're using a Mac laptop, which no one in their right mind would consider doing. Anyway, memtest should have a CD version and if not, the Ultimate Boot CD does have one in there so using that will do the same thing. I would still like to rule out the possibility since I've actually seen faulty RAM modules actually cause similar problems to this.

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