Cygnus X-1 12 Posted February 2, 2005 Overlord is not really a mammoth. It is its own class of tank. But youre right, it probably is the best tank, just not the best mammoth tank. Share this post Link to post
Cygnus X-1 12 Posted February 2, 2005 When the mod is done, you should have a poll on the best tank in the mod. Dont have to edit, just do the above. Share this post Link to post
cnc_sage 0 Posted March 4, 2005 The Mammoth Mk II would own any vehicle; its railgun can perform a one-shot-kill on vehicles and is also equipped against aircraft. It can easily take on an Overlord/Emperor. Since its not on the poll, the Apocalypse is the next best thing. Share this post Link to post
Cygnus X-1 12 Posted March 4, 2005 I thought the Mammoth MK 2 was good at first, but expirience has shown me other wise, I think I'll stick with the traditional Mammoth tanks. Share this post Link to post
cnc_sage 0 Posted March 5, 2005 I guess the Mk II is done for if its swarmed. But then again i'll stick with the Apocalypse. Share this post Link to post
Cygnus X-1 12 Posted March 5, 2005 The Apoc was the best overall mammoth because of the mini nuke shots. But I think the TS mammoth was cooler, esecially the mammoth from Tiberian Sun Retro (mod) And the Forgotten has mammoths in FS, maybe in TT they will have something more similar to the Apoc. Share this post Link to post
Inferno 22 Posted March 5, 2005 Perhaps IF TT comes out (which probably won't happen but still) they can upgrade MKII's AA missiles to those on MLRS. Because the MKII's missiles are very short-ranged, and actually, the MKII is sloooooow. Before he had a chance to shoot, the aircraft is already gone (for example, the banshee). Share this post Link to post
Cygnus X-1 12 Posted March 5, 2005 Then again, the Banshee is the fastest thing in the game, except for maybe a multimissile and the hunter-seeker drone. (the most annoying thin EVER!) Share this post Link to post
Inferno 22 Posted March 5, 2005 Then again, the Banshee DOES use alien technology! Share this post Link to post
Cygnus X-1 12 Posted March 12, 2005 Maybe Nod and/or Cabal will use more alien tech too. I wonder if the subterranean tech wasnt "enhanced" with stolen Scrin tech by Nod. Share this post Link to post
Acerz492 1 Posted April 24, 2005 I'm wondering if it -really- matters that the Overlord didn't have a background. If you think about it, in ZH, the Emporer Tanks' background is the Overlord. Even if it is just an upgrade/prototype. Also, both Emporer and Overlord can crush vehicles. 8) The Apocalypse can't. That can get crushed by the Battle Fortress (NOT a tank). And from what I know, there isn't any crushing ability in the Tiberium series or RA1. Correct me if I'm wrong here. And the ability to place something that rips through infantry, heals itself/other units, or allows infantry to fire out from, on the massive turret's back, makes the Overlord the best tank. Not to mention the two Nuke upgrades for it (speed and weaponry). Notice how I didn't say Mammoth Tank. I honestly couldn't care less about the name 'Mammoth' :roll: . But if you diehards want to go with tradition, then the best 'Mammoth' Tank is definatly the Apocalypse. Just to please you guys and avoid flaming. Share this post Link to post
General immeyourenot 0 Posted April 24, 2005 i think the best mammoth tank in the games was the origional mk1 mammoth from C&CTD, a mammoth in ra1, or apocalypse in ra2 wasnt really intimidating, every side had things that could get rid of them no problem. the mammoth mk2 wasnt really scary for that same reason, plus you could guarantee only 1, an overlord rush in generals? no problem for a few anti tank rockets shoved on something fast, like a battle bus full of RPG troopers. but the mk1 mammoth, there was nothing in the entire nod arsenal that could destroy it, & a rush of them would prove fatal easily, even if you had pumped up your base to the max with obelisks. Share this post Link to post
Acerz492 1 Posted April 24, 2005 Hehe, patrolling MiGs above your Overlords will either draw fire and let the Overlords finish the Battlebus/Humvee filled with RPG Troopers/Missle Defenders off, or vice versa. Now that MK1 Mammoth rush is something I would like to see one day. Share this post Link to post
General immeyourenot 0 Posted April 24, 2005 migs are quad cannon fodder, with ap bullets & a few upgrades a quad cannon can take down a mig every second from a long way, plus send in a few technicals first to draw their fire away so the migs end up bombing right next to the overlord, making it even easier for the battle buses. & if you saw a mammoth mk1 rush, i guarantee it would be the last thing you ever saw, until you started another game that is. Share this post Link to post
sonofabandit 0 Posted April 24, 2005 If people let the mammoth MK II count as a mammoth tank then the overlord has a right to be in this poll as. I read the arguments on why the overlord should be excluded and I think its just silly. There's just a lot of anit-EA sentiment bleeding through people's reasonings. Nothing more, nothing less. Share this post Link to post
Acerz492 1 Posted April 24, 2005 *laughs* True that. Mind you, this is a tank discussion. Let's keep it that way. I'm too tired to type, and my fingers are freezing. You may see me in a good 8 hours or so. :lol: Almost 4am here. Share this post Link to post
General immeyourenot 0 Posted April 24, 2005 yeah well, we all hate EA, they destroyed command & conquer, when i did a presentation thing about what i had to put in room 101 guess what i did. kind of controversial since all the people there were rabid playstation fanboy chav types, who loved their EA sports games. both have rights to be mammoth tanks, although overlords are not in any way related to mammoth tanks, & the mammoth mk2 isnt actually a tank. Share this post Link to post
sonofabandit 0 Posted April 24, 2005 yeah well, we all hate EA, they destroyed command & conquer, when i did a presentation thing about what i had to put in room 101 guess what i did. kind of controversial since all the people there were rabid playstation fanboy chav types, who loved their EA sports games. both have rights to be mammoth tanks, although overlords are not in any way related to mammoth tanks, & the mammoth mk2 isnt actually a tank. Hehe. That happens. But who doesn't like Madden? Or NBA Street? They're loved by millions for a reason. EA does make some quality games. Some are the best of their genre and some aren't. That's the biz. I give credit to EA only to where its due. Madden, Fight Night, Battlefield, Burnout, NBA Street, Medal of Honor are all great franchises. Generals was decent, but I like the other C&Cs better. I wouldn't say that they ruined the series, seeing how this is their first RTS up to bat. But I would agree with you that they are not the top dog of the RTS market right now. Share this post Link to post
General immeyourenot 0 Posted April 24, 2005 however, most games producers share a special bomd with their market, they give the buyers what they want, in return the buyers buy the games, present & furture. EA just make a game based off some old engine, or give it an old name *cough* Goldeneye & the can guarantee that it will sell. are they really providing a new & unique experience, or are they just updating graphics? Share this post Link to post
Cygnus X-1 12 Posted April 25, 2005 Lets hope RA3 really is a new C&C expirience for us all (for the better) BTW a Mammoth MK1 rush is unstopable, unless you have an equal amount of Mammoths. Share this post Link to post
GeneralZ 0 Posted April 25, 2005 u cant Mk1 rush cause u can only build 1. unless u change the build limit in the ini files. Share this post Link to post
Acerz492 1 Posted April 25, 2005 Ugh. Back. *laughs* Still freezing cold. Bleah, I don't care much for EA. They killed Westwood, but I don't think they've killed off Command and Conquer just yet. I mean, seriously, do you think CNC would sell just as well as, say, RA1 and TD did, on the 5th installment of the series? You gotta have a new storyline eventually, something original, otherwise the RA and the T series would get boring very quickly. And it seems that they have done very well with Generals and ZH. I'm looking forward to RA3, however. I wanna see some ramped up Prism/Apocalypse tanks. Share this post Link to post
Cygnus X-1 12 Posted April 25, 2005 u cant Mk1 rush cause u can only build 1. unless u change the build limit in the ini files. MK1 as in Mammoth tanks from RA and TD. A rush of them is unstopable. And a Rush of the mammoth tanks in TS is almost unstopable (set the tech level higher than -1) 1500 posts Share this post Link to post
GeneralZ 0 Posted April 25, 2005 nah, an attack of 5 syborg commandos would do more damage....and cheaper i think. Share this post Link to post