Inferno 22 Posted January 30, 2008 ... who thinks the Black Hand are gonna be a bunch of wussies in Kane's Wrath? I mean, come on. I wasn't very satisfied by the fact that the Black hand in C&C3 were just a bunch of flamethrowers, but now also their faction is gonna be crap (by the looks of it). The Black Hand was supposed to be an underground, elite group of Nod, for special assignments. But now they don't even have stealth tanks. Hell, they're an infantry faction and they don't have shadows! Also, they don't have any air units, which will be a major disadvantage. They do have an flame-tank-upgraded avatar for the same (cheap) price, so I guess it makes up for something. If this stuff is like how it will be in-game, I'm changing my allegiance to the Marked of Kane Share this post Link to post
TripleCP 0 Posted January 30, 2008 I also really hate what they've done with the Black Hand. They should keep all stealth units and then some - possibly getting stealthed air transports - and maybe lose Avatars as compensation. I never liked their look either - EA needs to check out more army surplus stores and fewer comic book conventions when designing Nod uniforms. Share this post Link to post
hagren 0 Posted January 31, 2008 I guess the suits and flamethrowers are tools of intimidation, which i like both. Remember, the BH changed with Marcion. Btw, they get a new anti-air tank that hasnt been shown yet. Also, theres some cool stuff in the faction like the confessor Cabal which buff infantry around them and throw hallucinogen grenades where and when you want it. The Purifier has a supression buff, and i like the quad turret upgrade and decoy temple equally as well. Plus infantry starts veteran and commandos heroic. So this faction is really about buffs, flames and defence. Me likes. On the other hand, MoK is simply whollier. They absolutely should have done more with this faction however, like customizable BH troops when the faction is called that anyway. Share this post Link to post
Luk3us 63 Posted January 31, 2008 Yeah I guess they're be interesting to use. I still think the Marked of Kane will be the best faction since they get everything Generic Nod gets and extra stuff. Share this post Link to post
Voskhod 0 Posted February 10, 2008 Yes. I really hope EA will beef up the Black Hand a little more between now and when the game is released. I mean, seriously, no air units, no stealth tanks, no shadows, in exchange for, let's see, a confessor squad and a cheaper avatar with flamethrower. It seemed to be by a very long margin the weakest faction in the game. At least let them keep shadows and stealth tanks. Share this post Link to post
spark 0 Posted February 28, 2008 Yup, they made the Black Hand 'non-elite' in that sense, just a bunch of stupid units... Share this post Link to post
Gben 20 Posted March 2, 2008 I agree overall with the disappointment - but I think its more related to naming the faction the Black Hand. The BH should be an elite shadowy unit that works in the background - not a full on military force. Was renegade the first mention of the Black Hand? If it was, then yeah it's disappointing that stanks and other stealth units are not in this faction. I had sorta got used to the flame troops being called BH. Hagren's comments have merit, but I do think it's a mistake to call these troops the BH, and to make an entire faction step away from stealth technology considering it's place in canon history. Thinking about BH as being an elite shadowy faction, I would be interested in seeing a C&C3 side with physically less units but starting veterancy, and perhaps greater multi-tasking, Less convention military units, more stealth, more EMP or disabling style powers for instance. Share this post Link to post
EdmundW 0 Posted March 4, 2008 You get veteren units, 2 commandoes, confessor cabal, napalm upgrade, confessor upgrade free and a uber avatar Share this post Link to post
Inferno 22 Posted March 6, 2008 (edited) Who cares about veteran units, they're just infantry. Lol, who uses commando's anyway. Confessor cabal is good but not great. Napalm upgrade, who cares flame already almost instakills. Free confessor upgrade, not that much of a difference. Uber avatar is good, but not worth giving up stealth and aircraft for. Edited March 6, 2008 by Inferno Share this post Link to post
EdmundW 0 Posted March 7, 2008 And veteran recon bikes. They also get a new unit called the 'Mantis' which specialises in anit-air and they get a tiberium-core missle upgrade for SAM sites recon bikes and the mantis. Confessor cabal is good but not great. Napalm upgrade, who cares flame already almost instakills. Napalm would be useful at destroying structures quickly and the confessor Cabal are very good btw, they get anti-tank energy weapons later on in the game and they cannot be crushed i believe. Share this post Link to post
Inferno 22 Posted March 10, 2008 Tib tipped missiles are interesting indeed. But nonetheless those missile soldiers will die beneath my threads. MoK!!! Share this post Link to post