Help! Always owned by USA HumVees

[Terry Burger 0]

Generally I play with the China Nuke general, and I just can't stop those damn early USA HumVee/Ambl rushes when playing on smaller maps (like, tournament desert). I've tried infantry backed up with gatling tanks, but the damn gatling tanks always target the drones first and get blown up like no tomorrow. Any suggestions?

 

Thanks,

T

[Renamon 0]

Base defenses.

[GiGaNToR 0]

Generally I play with the China Nuke general, and I just can't stop those damn early USA HumVee/Ambl rushes when playing on smaller maps (like, tournament desert). I've tried infantry backed up with gatling tanks, but the damn gatling tanks always target the drones first and get blown up like no tomorrow. Any suggestions?

 

Thanks,

T

base defences are horrible, can only cover 1 flank early game with an army, 2 w/o army. and there are 3 on td + no power knocks them out

 

drones is a micro thing, i actually buy all my vees spy drones and 1 or 2 hellfires just for that purpose (hellfires for killing inf/ targeting thourgh buildings), you just need to tell the gatts to fire at the vees instead of the drones

 

when you engage vees with gats, keep them still (1/2 damage while moving), and try to wind up your chain gun before battle by force firing on the ground

 

chinas early game counter is mass th, in groups of 5+

 

no definate counter though, and usa does > nuke at pro levels

 

basically just keep htem busy, a few nuke bms to take out dozers, just keep him on the defensive with gat/manspam and a few bms while you capture all the resources on the map and outspam him, while teching first then trying to get nuke migs later.

[BWare 0]

Hehe... well, I guess getting constantly owned by USA humvees adds to the realism of the game! :wink:

[Renamon 0]

Yes. I am bored

 

base defences are horrible, can only cover 1 flank early game with an army, 2 w/o army. and there are 3 on td + no power knocks them out

 

Thats why you have tank hunters at their side. When the Hum-Vees try to run them over (they always do) TNT them so they have 2 options. Run and get killed by the TNT -or- stay and get killed by the Gatling Cannon. Most people forget they even have that suicide/final ability.

 

drones is a micro thing, i actually buy all my vees spy drones and 1 or 2 hellfires just for that purpose (hellfires for killing inf/ targeting thourgh buildings), you just need to tell the gatts to fire at the vees instead of the drones

 

You do realize that the drones self destruct when they have no parent hevicle making them a complete waste of money, right?. Sides, you could have built a nice and shiny Paladin to assure a victory againdst the gatling.

 

chinas early game counter is mass th, in groups of 5+

 

So we... agree?...

 

basically just keep them busy, a few nuke bms to take out dozers,

 

By the time you had a "few" Battlemasters she would have seen them coming and have prepared a Comanche defense. I would (If i could)

 

just keep him on the defensive with gat/manspam and a few bms while you capture all the resources on the map and outspam him

 

When she would have figured out your attack patterns and developed countermeasures against them (Crusaders vs. Gatlings and 6 Rangers in chinook for the hunters)

 

while teching first then trying to get nuke migs later.

 

Avenger support > Nuke migs. Why? Any reasonable USA player automatically assumes Tao playes will make nuke migs the first chance they gets and protect their steel battalions with avengers.

[GiGaNToR 0]

Yes. I am bored

 

base defences are horrible, can only cover 1 flank early game with an army, 2 w/o army. and there are 3 on td + no power knocks them out

 

Thats why you have tank hunters at their side. When the Hum-Vees try to run them over (they always do) TNT them so they have 2 options. Run and get killed by the TNT -or- stay and get killed by the Gatling Cannon. Most people forget they even have that suicide/final ability.

 

drones is a micro thing, i actually buy all my vees spy drones and 1 or 2 hellfires just for that purpose (hellfires for killing inf/ targeting thourgh buildings), you just need to tell the gatts to fire at the vees instead of the drones

 

You do realize that the drones self destruct when they have no parent hevicle making them a complete waste of money, right?. Sides, you could have built a nice and shiny Paladin to assure a victory againdst the gatling.

 

chinas early game counter is mass th, in groups of 5+

 

So we... agree?...

 

basically just keep them busy, a few nuke bms to take out dozers,

 

By the time you had a "few" Battlemasters she would have seen them coming and have prepared a Comanche defense. I would (If i could)

 

just keep him on the defensive with gat/manspam and a few bms while you capture all the resources on the map and outspam him

 

When she would have figured out your attack patterns and developed countermeasures against them (Crusaders vs. Gatlings and 6 Rangers in chinook for the hunters)

 

while teching first then trying to get nuke migs later.

 

Avenger support > Nuke migs. Why? Any reasonable USA player automatically assumes Tao playes will make nuke migs the first chance they gets and protect their steel battalions with avengers.

1v1s... pm me your msn or aim

[Azrael 0]

Use bottleneck strategy. In tight entrances, flank it with bunkers w/ mines, Tank Huters and at least 1 Gattling Gun. That will make for a good early defense. If not an option, keep making tanks (Battlemasters) and Tank Hunters for an early counter against Humvee rushes. Later on, use base defences. Mines are good counter against vehicles, since they're not exactly small enough to dodge a well executed mine bottleneck...

[GiGaNToR 0]

Use bottleneck strategy. In tight entrances, flank it with bunkers w/ mines, Tank Huters and at least 1 Gattling Gun. That will make for a good early defense. If not an option, keep making tanks (Battlemasters) and Tank Hunters for an early counter against Humvee rushes. Later on, use base defences. Mines are good counter against vehicles, since they're not exactly small enough to dodge a well executed mine bottleneck...

dont think in terms of rushes.. think in terms of strategic capture of resources

[F15pilotX 4]

Hehe... well, I guess getting constantly owned by USA humvees adds to the realism of the game! :wink:

that so arrogant, yet..so true

[GiGaNToR 0]

Use bottleneck strategy. In tight entrances, flank it with bunkers w/ mines, Tank Huters and at least 1 Gattling Gun. That will make for a good early defense. If not an option, keep making tanks (Battlemasters) and Tank Hunters for an early counter against Humvee rushes. Later on, use base defences. Mines are good counter against vehicles, since they're not exactly small enough to dodge a well executed mine bottleneck...

dont think in terms of rushes.. think in terms of strategic capture of resources

lol no pm with msn or aim..

[Terry Burger 0]

I guess my only choice is stronger defenses, but as we all know those are a waste of time in most games. I've had OK luck hiding TH's around in buildings en route to my base, and sometimes get lucky with a HumVee driving right in to it. I've also had OK luck with building mines around buildings and placing an irresistable target, like a dozer, behind the building. I guess USA just pwns China... =/

[GiGaNToR 0]

I guess my only choice is stronger defenses, but as we all know those are a waste of time in most games. I've had OK luck hiding TH's around in buildings en route to my base, and sometimes get lucky with a HumVee driving right in to it. I've also had OK luck with building mines around buildings and placing an irresistable target, like a dozer, behind the building. I guess USA just pwns China... =/

pm me your aim or msn.. and we can play 5 games, any usa for you, any china but inf for me, all 1v1 TD, and see who wins?

[Renamon 0]

this is too painful to read

Edited June 24, 2011 by Renamon

[UncleBob 0]

Well just target the humvees manually with your gats...

 

As inf ATCs rip hummers up, and if evacuate the MDs inside to LL you, just get all your minigunners out and shred them.

 

I guess USA just pwns China... =/

 

In my experience a decent china player with good micro has no less, if not better, chance of winning than a usa player of similar skill.

[GiGaNToR 0]

Well just target the humvees manually with your gats...

 

As inf ATCs rip hummers up, and if evacuate the MDs inside to LL you, just get all your minigunners out and shred them.

 

I guess USA just pwns China... =/

 

In my experience a decent china player with good micro has no less, if not better, chance of winning than a usa player of similar skill.

humvee range > minigunner range, though they are good since the mgs take a while to kill, as cannon fodder/ distraction.

[Mother Of All Bombs 0]

may i remind u ur supposed to be playing with nuke general - which also features $350 infantry. sucks ey!

[Terry Burger 0]

OK I got owned by an interesting rush attack that I found works well against USA in short maps. You go about half map, built 2 or 3 barracks, around 40 Chinese troops, and rush. They take out everything pretty quickly, except choppers or flash-bangs, but usually you can kill the barracks first and wipe the guy out while is he putting together the obligatory humvee/md rush.

[UncleBob 0]

meh well against USA as nuke gen i just go for the standard mid warfactory mid barracks rush, but thats just me.