Doctor Destiny 41 Posted March 16, 2005 The Revolution is nigh. A new faction enters the war for total supremacy. But what does this mean for the war? Only time will give us such answers. Disclaimer: I do not support the Nazi party in any way, shape or form. The symbol does not represent the Nazi party in any way, shape or form. The symbol is merely that and has no bearing on historical events; it is simply the new faction's insignia of war. Big thanks to Speeder and Blodo for allowing me to use this. Share this post Link to post
FlaK 0 Posted March 16, 2005 Omg Nazi! This doesn't necessarily mean the Nazi's... that symbol was created by the Greeks IIRC. Share this post Link to post
Luk3us 63 Posted March 17, 2005 Nazi!! Ahhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Looks good.. I think.... :? Share this post Link to post
General Patton 0 Posted March 17, 2005 Omg Nazi! This doesn't necessarily mean the Nazi's... that symbol was created by the Greeks IIRC. The swastika was not created by the Greeks- it was an ancient Germanic religious symbol that was the symbol of the thunder god Thorr (a popular god)- the swastika's shape was supposed to represent crossed lighning bolts. The Nazis were appealing to the Germanic national history by choosing the swastika as the symbol of their party. The swastika (reversed) is also a Hindu religious symbol as well. And why choose such a loaded symbol for a new faction if it isn't going to be related to the Nazi party? Share this post Link to post
BWare 0 Posted March 17, 2005 yeah seriously General Patton.... go with something original! A green swastika just seems silly. :roll: Share this post Link to post
Doctor Destiny 41 Posted March 17, 2005 And why choose such a loaded symbol for a new faction if it isn't going to be related to the Nazi party? Because this is Red Alert. yeah seriously General Patton.... go with something original! A green swastika just seems silly. Silly or not, it's going into play. The faction is all that really counts. The insignia in unindicative of their beliefs in this case. Share this post Link to post
BWare 0 Posted March 17, 2005 Silly or not, it's going into play. The faction is all that really counts. The insignia in unindicative of their beliefs in this case. exactly. So DON'T USE A CONTROVERSIAL IMAGE as their symbol! That symbol carries with it a certain cultural power... unless you intend on harnessing it, why use it at all? Now you have to tack your disclaimer onto everything! Share this post Link to post
Doctor Destiny 41 Posted March 17, 2005 Only if I post the image somewhere... I'll have a big page that comes up before you can download the actual mod. Either way, the image is controversial for a reason... I have a point behind it but it's not up for public release yet. Besides, you don't know the story behind the new faction so you don't understand the choice of symbolism. Just be patient... It will all be explained in time... Besides, this is the only place so far that seems to be trying to kill of the symbol... Stop being so uptight and remember one thing: this exists for a game and a game alone. Share this post Link to post
FlaK 0 Posted March 17, 2005 Think of it this way: The hammer and sickle was the symbol used by Communist Russia, in real life and in the game, Stalin had more people killed than Hitler, far more people, but yet nobody complains. It's just you people seem to want something to whine about. Share this post Link to post
BWare 0 Posted March 17, 2005 Just be patient... It will all be explained in time... fair enough :wink: Bware is always uptight... lol... oh come on... not all the time! :wink: truthfully, I'm usually in a bad mood when I post here Think of it this way: The hammer and sickle was the symbol used by Communist Russia, in real life and in the game, Stalin had more people killed than Hitler, far more people, but yet nobody complains. It's just you people seem to want something to whine about. FlaK, honestly... :roll: the hammer and sickle is used for those sides/factions/whatever because they are actually commies! "We people" (just me, actually) are "whining" :roll: about the nazi symbol in this case--I have no problem with using it in a game--because it doesn't actually reflect nazism! Why use such a powerful symbol randomly? But hey, Fenring is getting all mysterious now.... so let's wait and see! Share this post Link to post
General Patton 0 Posted March 19, 2005 Think of it this way: The hammer and sickle was the symbol used by Communist Russia, in real life and in the game, Stalin had more people killed than Hitler, far more people, but yet nobody complains. It's just you people seem to want something to whine about. I wasn't whining/offended- I was wondering why choose that symbol if they weren't Nazis (the hammer and sickle was acceptable because the enemies in Red Alert are Soviets/communists)? Obviously there would be people who would be offended-but now I have my answer and I'll have to wait and see until the mod comes out to understand why. Share this post Link to post
alleylee 0 Posted March 21, 2005 hammer, the industrial people of russia, and sickle, the agricultural people of russia. It is very symbolic... ... Also, there are some leaders (in history) who killed off people more than stalin and were nearly unknown to the world.. i don't know them myself, but i heard of it. I might research on it... Hitler is nothing, just a big genecide.. how about the christians who started the crusades? no complaints there... Share this post Link to post
General Patton 0 Posted March 22, 2005 I wasn't making a big deal over Hitler (personally I think Pol Pot, Mao, and Stalin were worse than Hitler ever was),read my posts- I wasn't offended at all, just curious why- I guess it will all make sense when I dl and play the mod. Share this post Link to post
