Kane doesnt Age

[Masked Shah 5]

Let's recap...

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=T6WE1Gk2yFs

First fall of Kane

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EKy4BdOVsZI

Kane returns

 

Second fall of Kane, he bleeds

 

Kane on Red Alert

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8eK5iCaN4pY

and now this...

 

ON OTHER NOTES....

 

NOD ending for C&C 2, does Kane chronoshift?

 

Kane kills Seth, yup yup

[Luk3us 63]

In those preview vids there is no obvious sign of any facial injuries like he had in TS...

 

But then it could be "digitally corrected" like it was for all the Nod campaign... Hmm....

 

And to set the record straight, Kane did not fall, he simply enacted a tactical retreat.

[comander starlin 6]

you tell him Luk3us you tell him. Nod was never officially defeated.

[Masked Shah 5]

In those preview vids there is no obvious sign of any facial injuries like he had in TS...

 

But then it could be "digitally corrected" like it was for all the Nod campaign... Hmm....

 

And to set the record straight, Kane did not fall, he simply enacted a tactical retreat.

 

Hmmm yes tactical retreat, I am very familiar with those...

It happens to be mentioned in the GLA creed...

 

All Your Base Are Belong To Us, Kane version...

[comander starlin 6]

lol that is an alright laugh

[Luk3us 63]

Err that was a little weird.

[Guest Maul]

when kane is around in red alert he tells the women when the ussr will end, proof that he was from the future and ea's stance on it is that the ra series is a prequel to the tiberian series

[Guest Rabbit]

I know King showed this to me originally, but, I think the time is right at the moment to show you all this. I don't know if he posted it elsewhere, but take a close look.

 

Here's a video of Kane being Ion Cannoned in the first Tiberian Dawn game.

 

 

 

 

Now, this is the Nod ending for the Tiberian Sun game.

 

 

 

 

Look at the similarities in the way he holds out his arms. I think he's somehow escaping death in every situation, but I don't know how, and that's a hell of a question to be answered.

[Masked Shah 5]

I caught that as well....

He was expecting something...

like a goal to achieve or transend somewhere...

 

It looks like a chronoshift...

[Guest Maul]

yes it does look like a chronoshift. remarkably like one

[Azrael 0]

Well, from all I know about C&C... Kane might be, well, the biblical Cain, in different spelling... Remember he was banished, forever? Well maybe, in theory, forever LITERALLY means forever so, he keeps wandering the world, never to die... I got those ideas from the Genesis book of the Bible.

[Masked Shah 5]

Well, from all I know about C&C... Kane might be, well, the biblical Cain, in different spelling... Remember he was banished, forever? Well maybe, in theory, forever LITERALLY means forever so, he keeps wandering the world, never to die... I got those ideas from the Genesis book of the Bible.

 

The Family Tree of Cain

-Cain: According to the Hebrew Bible and the Qur'an, Cain and Abel were the first and, possibly, second sons of Adam and Eve, born after the Fall of Man. Cain kills Abel, and inherits the "mark" he and his family will have through out the ages. Is banished to the land of Nod.

-Enoch: Son of Cain, lived in the land Nod. The capital is named after him.

(Mother: Lilith? Other?)

-Irad: Grandson of Cain

-Mehujael: Great Grandson of Cain, witness to Cain's death. Warned of the family "mark".

-Lamech: Great great grandson. Killed several men, and did not fear revenge. Claimed that the mark held sevenfold the suffering if anyone had killed him. First polygamist, he had 3 sons. This evil man died when the Noah flood came.

Genesis 4:19-24

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamech

 

-TubalCain: Son of Lamech, great great great grandson of Cain. Leader of Naamah (Mesopotamia?), the father of bronze and iron. Warlord (Mother: Zillah)

-Jabel: Son of Lamech, great great great grandson of Cain. The father of tents and livestock. (Mother: Adah)

-Jubal: Son of Lamech, great great great grandson of Cain. The father of harp and flute. Peace lover. (Mother: Adah)

 

The family tree ends here in the Bible, and other historical documents.

[Azrael 0]

Hm... Possibly a different Kane is meant in C&C... If not, maybe he's just part of the family tree of the first Cain... :?:

[comander starlin 6]

i have been saying he is using chronoshift for years.

[Azrael 0]

Maybe you mean Time Travel? Chronoshifting kills infantry, as evidenced in the RA games, try it on RA2, you'll get a laugh tuning once-proud infantry into a pile of corpses in less than 5 seconds...

[comander starlin 6]

yet the FMV of the ship said you could?

[Masked Shah 5]

I know King showed this to me originally, but, I think the time is right at the moment to show you all this. I don't know if he posted it elsewhere, but take a close look.

 

Here's a video of Kane being Ion Cannoned in the first Tiberian Dawn game.

 

 

 

 

Now, this is the Nod ending for the Tiberian Sun game.

 

 

 

 

Look at the similarities in the way he holds out his arms. I think he's somehow escaping death in every situation, but I don't know how, and that's a hell of a question to be answered.

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=85tMFIA6Dy0

This is how a normal chronoshift look in Red Alert Intro, they match in static effect....

 

Maybe you mean Time Travel? Chronoshifting kills infantry, as evidenced in the RA games, try it on RA2, you'll get a laugh tuning once-proud infantry into a pile of corpses in less than 5 seconds...

You can't chronoshift people in the gameplay,

BUT you can chronoshift people back into time.

 

Examples: Red Alert 1, Red Alert 2 Yuri's Revenge.

[comander starlin 6]

but in the FMV's it is possible. in RA1 they did a battle cruiser, RA2 they did a whole army to take down Yuri in San Fran. so it is possible so he could be using stolen tech. what are your views on this Luk3us?

[Masked Shah 5]

(Posted as observation only, I do not agree with the notions or beliefs of the people listed.)

 

If I could compare Kane to other villains (real or fake) I would select the following:

 

1)Anton LaVey- He is number one on the list for a reason. He looks like Kane, bald with same facial hair. His mannerisms are simular as well, gestures all of it seem to be mimicked by Kane.

LaVey's "Left-hand" propaganda looks just like "Nod" propaganda both in posters art, and video (I would post videos, but that would be tastless for this forum, they are on youtube.com though). The Nod philosophy of "Peace through Power" hints at "Domination through Strength" motto of the LaVey lot. Both had a messiah complex, but LaVey never ranted like Kane does. LaVey was a quiet soft spoken evil, while Kane will preach and preach.

Clean Pictures for comparison:

http://www.nndb.com/people/772/000027691/a...lavey-black.jpg

http://www.arena111.dk/satan/Dr.%20Anton%2...20LaVey%201.jpg

http://www.churchofsatan.com/Graphics/News/LaVeykeys.jpg

In case you didn't know, LaVey is the creator of modern satanism, and author of the satanic bible.

 

2)Adolf Hitler- This is the ranting and preaching comes in. Kane ressembles the attitude and ego-trip of this god awful person. The self-rightousness thinking of "I can do no wrong", or his blaming of his generals for their own shortcomings.

The sick derangement of organisation having troops shot and killed, and fanatical rule of cruelty and punishment. The way he command his zealot flock is the same as Hitler's command of troops.

The clandestine knowledge and intellect of Kane is far superior to that of the dimlightbulb of Hitler.

 

3)Doctor Doom- Dr. D is a fanatical mad man, and brillant genius. He attempt to rescue his dead mother from Hell through science, but unfortunately was stopped by Reed Richards. He blames his burn scars on Reed, and desires revenge on Reed. Richards has everything Doom wants, and this makes the Doctor mad with envy.

Kane's desire for technology and for revenge greatly matches Doom. We all seen Kane try to achieve greatness, but it was all foiled by GDI.

Kane has evolved as a character.

He is hellbent on making GDI pay, and refuses to pay heed to the danger of the "Vistors". To him nothing will bring him happiness than destorying GDI, and global domination has taken a second seat in his to-do-list... Much like Doom's desire to destroy Reed first, take over world second.

Doom also has a knack of coming back from the dead as well...

He is the first "returning" comic book villain, and would fake his death through Doombots.

 

4)Cobra Commander- Kane has had a bad losing streak, really really bad. There is one person that matches his losses, but never in the same comical manner. Cobra Commander may share the same ego-trip with Kane, but both are different men.

Cobra Commander sometimes foils his own plots, and Kane loses his through heavy interrferance from GDI.

Command and Conquer Tiberian series can be thought as a serious version of G.I. Joe.

Nod=Cobra

GDI=GI Joe

 

5)Cult Messiahs- Kane shares alot of the traits of religious figures. The cult like statis matches that of would-be messiahs. His flock of followers bend to his will, we all know this. This command of authority is only secured with "divine" faith. If you got an army, why not seal the deal of good faith with the sheep by having them believe they are doing it for god?

 

Kane is evil, a commanding charasmatic evil... sick to the core. Then again that's the appeal, the movie/show/game is only as good as it's villain. That's why C&C is awesome, it is the saga of Good vs Evil.

[Alphabear 11]

my boss looks jsut like kane. He has just shaved his head so now the resemblanceis even greater

[Masked Shah 5]

Another cool vid

 

Judging from what I seen in all preview movies, the Philidephia Space Station is gonna fall... that's my guess anyways... I could be wrong.

 

Wouldn't be the first time.

[Dim4uk 0]

Brothers, may i point out that shah was actualy the closest to knowing who kane actualy is couse my theory somehow more of simpotize that and also I can translate some biblical words compared to hebrew.

therefor i have answeres to both kane and some information about Nod.

 

The translation to the word NOD in hebrew migth sound for some strange but it is the gas that get out of enybody's ass. that's rigth.

from this i assume it can mean only one thing: food of eny sort.

 

if conecting it to my theory kane uses the bible as his food like the cultist from the devinchi code movie. he also migth be son of stalin's edvisor and he doesn't have conection tp Chronosfer. however he migth have used some extreme previlagies to construct NOD as an organization. the way kane leaves ,his tiatralic shows, can only sujest to the direction he was born in sort of royal family as much as russian royal family can be in dictated superpower.

 

(there is more logical info from joe kucan's interview by Gamespot to fit the rest parts of the pazzle)

 

it would seem that tiberian universe is more like opposite to our actual univers: instead of milions died in concentration camps and by war mashines they are killed in some multi soviet conflict's and rigth afterwards the tiberium came... in such a way einshtein's act created opposit world indeed.making article about ra3 and it's possabilities would clear some misanderstood issues.

[Masked Shah 5]

Brothers, may i point out that shah was actualy the closest to knowing who kane actualy is

 

That's the thing, everyone is trying to solve who or what Kane is.

 

I am just trying to understand the story better, so all my theories are just really lame observations... at best. I'm not going to tell people their coming up with bad answers, I don't even care what is right or wrong. I just wanna know the story that's all, and explore all posibilites.

 

So if you tell me I'm right or close, doesn't really phase me... I never really came up with an actually theory (not seriously anyways, terminators really... pleeease). If you noticed all I did was provide info for other peoples theories.

 

I really don't see how I can come close to an answer, when I never provided one before... not seriously anyways.

 

Please explain how am I close?

[Guest Maul]

Well, from all I know about C&C... Kane might be, well, the biblical Cain, in different spelling... Remember he was banished, forever? Well maybe, in theory, forever LITERALLY means forever so, he keeps wandering the world, never to die... I got those ideas from the Genesis book of the Bible.

 

bible basher ¬¬

[Adeavernus 0]

Well guys, I have a theory.

Sorry for my poor english... I'll manage to be more clear as I can.

 

The Scrin, the alien that terraformed the earth with the Tiberium to build a second home, or simply to harvest it like a planetary field, planned a loooong time event like this, as is it like to be a normal routine for them. Probably, they thought about the conquer of the planet a thousands or more years ago. If it is so, then they have a cyclical operation schedule, to retake the planets they infected (or terraformed, if you want to use their point of view).

Now, this is my theory about Kane.

 

What about a non-human being Kane? Think about it... the Scrin know about the take of the Earth a lot of time before the humans rose up from the mud of the evolution... so, and if there was a rebel one? A rebel Scrin that want to rebuild an empire far from the view of his own people?

So I thought immediately to Kane. He can be that rebel Scrin, who made himself human with unknown technology. He's the one of the Bible story. He alwasy put the hatred and the envy in the hearts of the men, to divide them and made them weak. Even in the war we have seen in Red Alert, he's on the side of Stalin. Probably he was the one who push Stalin in the conflict, with his treacherous advices.

He can be an alien messiah, who want to build is own empire. Have you ever noticed the scorpion's sting in the Nod logo? The Scrins look like insect, or that's true about the unit they controls in the game. Probably, the scorpion is not only the true nature of the treacherous politic of Kane and the Brotherhood...

If Kane is really an alien messiah, a rebel Scrin, he can have all the features he actually got:

 

- He's immortal... two times he met death, and both times his end looks definitive...

 

- He never aged during all this time. If we do not consider the strange theories about the cloning vats, Cabal and so on, that's one of the most controversial feature of the character

 

- He knows EXACTLY that the Tiberium was a powerful resource, even before the GDI. Looks like he already know and he was only waiting for the "first contact"...

Don't forget that, according to the narrative in C&C, the Brotherhood was the faction that first invented the "harvesting system" to retrieve the mineral.

 

- In "Tiberium Sun" he wants to transform the world into a Tiberium Planet. Why, if the Tiberium is lethal to human being? I suggest that he wanted to do it because he want to recreate a Scrin-lifesupporting world, for himself and for the next generation of humans, that should be mutate in a Scrin-like being.

 

Ok, that's it!

I thought to Kane as if he's like a "Superman" character... just like Kaleel, in the original comic story. It can works for me... but don't blame it to me! It's only a theory of mine... no one, though, can really find out what the guys of EA have on mind about this enigmatic and charismatic character, who is the very core of the entire C&C story.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kane_%28Command_%26_Conquer%29

 

In this link to the Wikipedia page (that I bet you all already read), you can find important evidence that the biblical character of Cain is matching with Kane, or so it seems. If both that guys are the same, Kane is definitely something that's not human.

Or, more simply, is a George Lucas' character... ah ah ah ah! Ok, that's it, i'll shut up!