Denmor 0 Posted January 25, 2006 Now, I truly do not know if this post will survive or not. This is my first post on these forums, though I have lurked. I just feel the need to get this out and share it with CnC fans and truly put forth a challenge to EALA, though I am sure that they wont listen. Let me start off by saying that I have no faith in EA as a game company. EA killed my first mmorpg Earth and Beyond (also a westwood product), that coupled with their policy on sports games (screw innovation, just get a new one out!) and thier microsoftian-esque business model has really left a bad taste in my mouth about EA, the corperation. Now on to the main arguement. To put it as bluntly as I can: I do not trust EALA with the Command and Conquer franchise. I have several reasons for this, the first one is that they are a division of EA Games. EA Games does not pride itself on quality, it prides itself on putting out decent games at far enough intervals that hardcore fans can justify a purchse, while still at short enough intervals that they can maintain a high profitability (see Madden for an example). They also have built themselves on the backs of smaller companies that had a solid product, that EA has bought and put out to line their coffers with. This is the company with our beloved franchise. THIS is their model. I truly do not believe the EA is willing to put the time or money it would take to make a truly worthy sucessor to Command and Conquer. Their "commitment" to the franchise I believe is best demonstrated by the fact that when they aquired Westwood "redundant" people were laied off. This my friends is the beginning of what is widely called the death of Westwood. Change is not a bad thing, but when change creates the massive talent drain we have seen over the years with EALA, its horrable. Westwood was destroyed and EALA was born, those elements of Westwood that were laied off or quit went off to form Petroglyph, as we all know. Petroglyph gets the rights to liscence the Star Wars universe and starts development on Empire At War. EA is none the wiser. Petroglyph shows off Empire At War, and what do we see from EALA? More development team members leaving, where do they end up? Petroglyph. This is not a massive pro-Petroglyph propaganda post, but I truly do believe that the loss of these development team members to Petroglyph hurts the CnC Franchise, badly. EALA fires back with BFME II. Blah. We have had hope recently with Mark Skaggs and his announcement of RA3 through a fan newsletter. Mark Skaggs got his ass fired for that, and RA3 indefinately shelved. (Aaron, if you prove me wrong, I will retract and apologise...but not for the entire rant.) However, hope is always contrasted with a bit of pain. Generals was a mediocre game. I'm sorry, but it was. It was not a Command and Conquer. Command and Conquer was attached to that game because they realised it was mediocre and attached the name as a cash grab. I believe this fervently, no amount of proof otherwise will convince me. So heres the situation as I see it: 1. Westwood is dead and buried 2. EALA is a little girl playing with Mommy's makeup. 3. Petroglyph is the new Westwood. Now for my challenge to EALA: After BFME II is gold. Start working on a Tiberian Twilight that will make me eat my words. PROVE to this community that you have the talent and most importantly the DESIRE to make a game deserving of the Command and Conquer franchise name. Give us innovation, prove to us that you aren't a little girl playing with mommy's makeup. PLEASE, PROVE ME WRONG. I feel a whole lot better. Share this post Link to post
rEdaSbLood 1 Posted January 25, 2006 well u gotta give me a couple of days to read this cause i just started another semester of college... Share this post Link to post
Luk3us 63 Posted January 25, 2006 EA will make a good enough game just given em' time.... Share this post Link to post
Denmor 0 Posted January 25, 2006 lets hope for the sake of the CnC name you're right. Share this post Link to post
Guest Rabbit Posted January 25, 2006 Gotta be honest here. Now for my challenge to EALA: After BFME II is gold. Start working on a Tiberian Twilight that will make me eat my words. PROVE to this community that you have the talent and most importantly the DESIRE to make a game deserving of the Command and Conquer franchise name. Give us innovation, prove to us that you aren't a little girl playing with mommy's makeup. PLEASE, PROVE ME WRONG. Yeah right. They won't read this, and won't care. In a sense, during the course of this post, you state the obvious, and the already stated. I'm not trying to be rude, or give you a hard time, but, we already know how it's going to go down, and having one person post saying they want tiberian twilight, isn't going to say much, especially knowing that many people have already started supporting other C&C ideas. Share this post Link to post
Saracen 16 Posted January 25, 2006 Yeah right. They won't read this, and won't care. Maybe not. But I did shove my pro-Petroglyph article far enough up their asses to make it impossible for them not to take notice. Something that no other person in this community can boast Share this post Link to post
Denmor 0 Posted January 25, 2006 in a sense, thats why I took the time to write it. Hopefuly you have made them a bit more....receptive to the community's wishes. By the way, if you actually READ the rant, I did say they will probably not give a crap a bout it Share this post Link to post
Saracen 16 Posted January 25, 2006 I don't think it has actually made them more receptive. I just think that it's pissed them off. The Truth hurts :wink: Share this post Link to post
Denmor 0 Posted January 25, 2006 the truth does hurt. Anyone in the CnC Community who thinks EALA can make a truly good CnC game is just diluding themselves at this point. As I said in the OP, I really want EALA to prove me wrong. Share this post Link to post
Jansomax 0 Posted February 3, 2006 well Denmor, they probably and this is a BIG IFFF, will show us something about TT or RA3(probably not this. but hey u never know sometimes) like a gameplay movie or a teaser trailer at 2006 E3, just wait and see my friend... Share this post Link to post
rEdaSbLood 1 Posted February 3, 2006 still didnt read it :lol: but i read hypno's response and i get the BASIC idea.... i no longer have hope or faith in the idea of another CnC coming out... what i have now is something like expectation for irony... umm...and i just got this thing inside sayin "red you dont need hope or anything...you just need that CnC player spirit.....make any RTS into a CnC..."" :lol: (50% full o shyt) and so on EDIT: IM HAPPY WITH MY CNCS THAT I GOT SO F U EA IF U DONT MAKE A NEW ONE! HA LONG LIVE WESTWOOD.....or should i say WESTWOOD "LIVES IN DEATH" heh lovely kane reference Share this post Link to post
Jansomax 0 Posted February 4, 2006 good point again, and very nice quote to i might add Share this post Link to post
Inferno 22 Posted February 25, 2006 EA CAN make a new C&C... They simply won't... So indeed: F*ck EA! Westwood lives in death! Share this post Link to post
