How to solve North Korean's Nuclear problem? And help D poor

[tommy 0]

Yes, the media mentions it almost everyday...

North Korea just tested it's nuclear bomb successfully or is it?

It's neighbours are worried about North Korea, as it could spark a horrible war, using nuke cannons and nuclear tanks.

More sanctions and yet more of them.......can it really force the nation to stop it's nuclear ambitions? What has Iran's similarity got to do with North Korea? How can we stop North Korea??? And save their poor people?

 

About 1,000 South Korean protesters wave national flags during a rally denouncing North Korea's nuclear test in Taegu, south of Seoul, South Korea, Saturday, Oct. 14, 2006. They demanded their country cut off aid and investment to North Korea to punish the communist nation for reportedly testing a nuclear device. The banners read 'Stop nuclear provocation by the North Korea.' (AP Photo/Ahn Young-joon)

 

South Korean war veterans shout a slogan during a rally denouncing North Korea's nuclear test in Taegu, south of Seoul, South Korea, Saturday, Oct. 14, 2006. About 1,000 protesters demanded their country cut off aid and investment to North Korea to punish the communist nation for reportedly testing a nuclear device. (AP Photo/Ahn Young-joon)

 

South Korean protesters burn a North Korean flag and a picture of leader Kim Jong-Il during an anti-North Korea rally in Seoul. North Korea said it was ready to talk as world powers reached a tentative deal on a package of sanctions to punish Pyongyang for its declared nuclear test four days earlier.(AFP/Jung Yeon-Je)

 

The United Nations Security Council meets to discuss the North Korea resolution at UN headquarters in New York. North Korea said it was ready to talk as world powers reached a tentative deal on a package of sanctions to punish Pyongyang for its declared nuclear test four days earlier.(AFP/Stan Honda)

 

Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao ® with visiting South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun in Beijing. South Korea has said that news of preliminary US findings of radioactivity near North Korea only confirmed its assumption that the communist regime had tested an atom bomb as claimed(AFP/Pool/Takanori Sekine)

 

United States Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton (C-L), speaks to the media after discussions on the North Korea resolution at UN headquarters in New York. Last-minute Russian and Chinese objections to a compromise draft resolution on mandatory sanctions against North Korea over its declared nuclear test cast doubt on prospects for a vote Saturday, diplomats said Friday.(AFP/Stan Honda)

 

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, here in Moscow 06 October 2006, cast doubt on whether the UN Security Council would present a united front at a meeting Saturday to vote on a resolution imposing sanctions on North Korea for its declared nuclear test.(AFP/File/Denis Sinyakov)

 

Men on the Chinese border with North Korea in Tu Men, Jilin province. A planned Security Council vote for mandatory sanctions against North Korea over its declared nuclear test appears in doubt after Russia and China raised last-minute objections to a compromise draft resolution, diplomats said(AFP/Peter Parks)

 

Boxes containing 'matsutake' mushrooms, a delicacy among Japanese gourmets, imported from China are sold just outside Tokyo's Tsukiji fish market Saturday, Oct. 14, 2006. Japan implemented Saturday independent economic sanctions in response to North Korea's nuclear test. Tokyo's sanctions include the closure of all Japanese ports to North Korean vessels, a ban on imports and exports, and a six-month ban on travel to Japan by all North Korean government officials. 'Matsutake' mushrooms imported from North Korea accounted for about 27 percent of the Japanese market in 2005. A box of 'matsutake' imported from China is priced at 1,800 yen (US$15). (AP Photo/Itsuo Inouye)

 

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice (L) greeted by US Ambassador to Iraq Zalmai Khalilzad ® after arriving in Baghdad 05 October 2006. Rice will travel to Asia next week to discuss the implementation of proposed UN sanctions against North Korea over its announced nuclear test, officials said.(AFP/US State Department/HO/File)

 

A protester burns an anti-North Korea sign at a rally denouncing the North's reported nuclear test, in Seoul October 13, 2006. (Lee Jae-Won/Reuters)

 

Kenzo Oshima, President of the Security Council and Japan's ambassador to the United Nations talks to reporters after a meeting of the Security Council permanent members and Japan on the issue of the North Korea nuclear test at U.N. headquarters in New York, Friday, Oct. 13, 2006. Wang Guangya, China's ambassador listens, right. (AP Photo/Osamu Honda)

 

Wang Guangya, China's ambassador talks to reporters after a meeting of the Security Council permanent members and Japan on the issue of the North Korea nuclear test at the United Nations headquarters in New York, Friday, Oct. 13, 2006. (AP Photo/Osamu Honda)

 

A South Korean protester disguised as North Korea leader Kim Jong-Il holds a placard reading "Let's turn (the Korean peninsula) into a sea of flames" during an anti-North Korea rally in Seoul. North Korea has said it was ready to talk as world powers reached a tentative deal on a package of sanctions to punish Pyongyang for its declared nuclear test four days earlier.(AFP/Jung Yeon-Je)

 

A Chinese paramilitary border guard patrols a bridge leading to North Korea (behind) in the town of Tu Men in China's northeast Jilin province. North Korea has said it was ready to talk as world powers reached a tentative deal on a package of sanctions to punish Pyongyang for its declared nuclear test four days earlier.(AFP/Peter Parks)

 

Russian President Vladimir Putin gets off his presidential plane while arriving in the ancient Russian city of Yaroslavl, about 240 km (150 miles) northeast of Moscow, Friday, Oct. 13, 2006. The sign onboard the plane reads: Russia. Putin has repeatedly condemned the reported North Korea's nuclear test but stressed that tension over the blast and North Korea's nuclear program must be resolved through diplomatic means, and Russian officials have not publicly indicated what kind of sanctions they might be willing to consider. (AP Photo/ITAR-TASS/Presidential Press Service, Vladimir Rodinov)

 

South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun (L) with his Chinese counterpart Hu Jintao at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing. China and South Korea have agreed to back "appropriate" measures against North Korea's declared nuclear test as world powers narrowed their differences on UN Security Council sanctions.(AFP/Pool/Takanori Sekine)

 

South Korean victims of the Nagasaki and Hiroshima nuclear bombings during World War II chant slogans at a rally against North Korea's reported nuclear test in Seoul October 13, 2006. The sign ® reads,'They must not use nuclear weapons'. REUTERS/Lee Jae-Won (SOUTH KOREA)

 

The shadow of United States Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton. South Korea's president has flown to summit talks with Chinese leaders as world powers argued over the scale and nature of sanctions to impose on North Korea over its declared nuclear test(AFP/Stan Honda)

 

Park Sang-hak, who escaped from North Korea in 2000 and has been living in South Korea since, prepares to fly a balloon containing thousands of leaflets toward North Korea, at an anti-North Korea protest denouncing the North's reported nuclear test, in Seoul October 13, 2006. China and South Korea support 'appropriate and necessary measures' on North Korea at the United Nations, in response to its reported nuclear test, a senior South Korean official said on Friday. REUTERS/Lee Jae-Won (SOUTH KOREA)

 

Anti-North Korea protesters burn a North Korean flag at a rally denouncing the North's reported nuclear test, in Seoul October 13, 2006. U.N. Security Council members reported progress on a resolution to impose U.N. sanctions on North Korea for its reported nuclear explosion and hope to put the draft to a vote on Saturday. REUTERS/Lee Jae-Won (SOUTH KOREA)

 

Policemen block protesters trying to deliver a written request demanding talks between North Korea and the U.S. to the U.S. embassy in Seoul October 13, 2006. U.N. Security Council members reported progress on a resolution to impose U.N. sanctions on North Korea for its reported nuclear explosion and hope to put the draft to a vote on Saturday. REUTERS/You Sung-Ho (SOUTH KOREA)

 

Protesters chant slogans at an anti-U.S. protest demanding talks between North Korea and the U.S. in Seoul October 13, 2006. U.N. Security Council members reported progress on a resolution to impose U.N. sanctions on North Korea for its reported nuclear explosion and hope to put the draft to a vote on Saturday. REUTERS/You Sung-Ho (SOUTH KOREA)

 

A protester holds a placard at an anti-U.S. protest calling for talks between North Korea and the U.S. in Seoul October 13, 2006. U.N. Security Council members reported progress on a resolution to impose U.N. sanctions on North Korea for its reported nuclear explosion and hope to put the draft to a vote on Saturday. REUTERS/You Sung-Ho (SOUTH KOREA)

 

A protester holds a placard at an anti-U.S. protest demanding talks between North Korea and the U.S. in Seoul October 13, 2006. U.N. Security Council members reported progress on a resolution to impose U.N. sanctions on North Korea for its reported nuclear explosion and hope to put the draft to a vote on Saturday. REUTERS/You Sung-Ho (SOUTH KOREA)

 

A South Korean protester wearing a mask of U.S. President George W. Bush participates in an anti-U.S. rally demanding talks between the United States and North Korea in Seoul, Friday, Oct. 13, 2006. South Korea's president arrived Friday in Beijing to discuss possible sanctions against North Korea for its claimed nuclear test, as the U.N. Security Council weighed U.S. demands for tough penalties and Japan adopted a trade and travel ban.(AP Photo/Ahn Young-joon)

 

Tourists walk across the 'Broken Bridge' on the Yalu River at Dandong, on China's border with North Korea Friday Oct. 13, 2006. The bridge was bombed by U.S. forces during the Korean War and reaches only half way across the river. The United States urged a vote Friday on a U.N. resolution to punish North Korea for its claimed nuclear test but Russia and China said more time is needed for high-level diplomacy to overcome differences and send a united message to Pyongyang that nuclear brinkmanship is unacceptable. (AP Photo/Greg Baker)

 

North Koreans chat on the waterfront at the North Korean city of Sinuiju, opposite the Chinese border city of Dandong Friday Oct. 13, 2006. The United States urged a vote Friday on a U.N. resolution to punish North Korea for its claimed nuclear test but Russia and China said more time is needed for high-level diplomacy to overcome differences and send a united message to Pyongyang that nuclear brinkmanship is unacceptable. (AP Photo/Greg Baker)

 

North Korean men dig a channel at a shipyard on the waterfront at the North Korean city of Sinuiju, opposite the Chinese border city of Dandong Friday Oct. 13, 2006. The United States urged a vote Friday on a U.N. resolution to punish North Korea for its claimed nuclear test but Russia and China said more time is needed for high-level diplomacy to overcome differences and send a united message to Pyongyang that nuclear brinkmanship is unacceptable. (AP Photo/Greg Baker)

 

North Koreans wait to board a boat on the waterfront at the North Korean town of Sinuiju, opposite the Chinese border city of Dandong Friday Oct. 13, 2006. The United States urged a vote Friday on a U.N. resolution to punish North Korea for its claimed nuclear test but Russia and China said more time is needed for high-level diplomacy to overcome differences and send a united message to Pyongyang that nuclear brinkmanship is unacceptable. (AP Photo/Greg Baker)

 

North Korean soldiers chat during a patrol on the waterfront at the North Korean town of Sinuiju, opposite the Chinese border city of Dandong Friday Oct. 13, 2006. The United States urged a vote Friday on a U.N. resolution to punish North Korea for its claimed nuclear test but Russia and China said more time is needed for high-level diplomacy to overcome differences and send a united message to Pyongyang that nuclear brinkmanship is unacceptable. (AP Photo/Greg Baker)

 

A North Korean man walks with a child on the waterfront at the North Korean town of Sinuiju, opposite the Chinese border city of Dandong Friday Oct. 13, 2006. The United States urged a vote Friday on a U.N. resolution to punish North Korea for its claimed nuclear test but Russia and China said more time is needed for high-level diplomacy to overcome differences and send a united message to Pyongyang that nuclear brinkmanship is unacceptable. (AP Photo/Greg Baker)

 

Lorries piled with bicycles to be transported to a North Korean ship arrive at a port in Maizuru, west of Tokyo, October 13, 2006. Japan said on Wednesday it would impose new sanctions on North Korea, including a ban on imports from the impoverished communist state, in response to its reported nuclear test this week. REUTERS/Kiyoshi Ota (JAPAN)

 

Map of North Korea

 

North Korean Emblem - taken from http://www.korea-dpr.com/

 

Spy sat on North Korea

 

North Korean children play a shooting game with a toy gun aiming at a portrait of U.S. President George W. Bush at Namjun kindergarten in Shinwiju, Pyongan-Budo, North Korea. The photo was released by Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) on May 9, 2005. (Reuters)

 

Panmunjeom, frontier to north korea, under GNU FDL, self photographed, 2001 (DMZ - De militarized Zone in the border between North and south korea)

 

"absolutely safe, nice people", Pyongyang flats in North Korea. Leader suks.

 

 

 

 

:arrow: TO SEE WHAT LIFE IN NORTH KOREA IS , WATCH THE VIDEO:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TNM5DpKyms

 

that video is heart breaking..

 

:arrow: Hope people start discussing how to solve the problem.

[Tree 0]

Crap like this goes on in the world every day. People only care because it's publicized.

[Saracen 16]

Political correctness plays a huge part in people's views and opinions on War these days. It seems that the majority of modern day anti-war hippies are your average joe public.

 

It's no longer about trying to wipe vermin of the face of the planet before they do it to us. It's more about the humanitarian implications and the funding towards our war machine that people object to.

 

These people don't realise though that if nations such as North Korea are allowed to bare arms and threaten us, we have every right to be defensive. Because if we don't we'll be the one facing a humanitarian crisis with death and destruction on our doorstep. Then the ironic twist would be that average joe public will protest that the government did nothing to stop it!

 

Dog eat dog, kill or be killed. If we have to invade and attack North Korea before they nuke us, then so be it. If collatteral damage is high, then tough luck, we have to protect ourselves in the name of freedom. The moment NK use a WMD against another country, it's gonna become almost impossible to use words of diplomacy.

[BWare 0]

King, seriously... it's good to hear strength like that coming from our allies overseas. I've always loved Britain and respected greatly your help and friendship, well, ever since the Revolutionary War (we got over that quickly :wink:). It's good to see you haven't all turned into hippies!

[Mario 0]

They wanna see the power of a nuke just drop a nuke on their Nuclear Weapons Facility problem solved

[F15pilotX 4]

and then most of the world goes beserk :roll: we really should try something like Israel's preemptive strike on Iraq's nuclear arsenal, though :wink: (i.e. strike with bunkerbusting bombs from bombers)

[General Leang 0]

It has to be made clear that Kim Jong can not use nuclear weapons to bully the world. Cutting off aid to him would be one way, but then the people would suffer. Perhaps the UN can be useful and have aid delivered directly to the people like they did in Somalia.

[Mario 0]

the people are already suffering tho i suppose they would suffer more and who's to say any food aid even gets to them

[F15pilotX 4]

It has to be made clear that Kim Jong can not use nuclear weapons to bully the world. Cutting off aid to him would be one way, but then the people would suffer. Perhaps the UN can be useful and have aid delivered directly to the people like they did in Somalia.

the problem with that is that the same kind of thing as the Oil for Food scandal would probably happen all over again :? Someone needs to step up, disarm and then depose that tyrant mabye even the North Korean people themselves with some outside aid

[General Leang 0]

It could. That is the risk that we run when anyone, whether it be America, or Christian Fellowship, run whenthey provide aid. Perhaps were it not placed in the hands of those involved in the Oil for Food scandal, whose heads really should have rolled over the incident. Perhaps keep it from the UN altogether. I heard about how great it would be for China to be able to solve the North Korea situation and become heroes. How much greater would it be to ally with America in such a plan to bring aid and directly benefit the people themselves?

[BWare 0]

Sadly that's next to impossible, and not recognizing this is very naive. Have you ever noticed that "aid" always ends up being, essentially, a cash payment to the corrupt leaders themselves? When the evil dictator has absolute control, how on earth can we decide where that "aid" goes or how it's used? Again, the ugly reality here is that the only real, permanent solution is deposing Kim Jong Il and his regime. Sanctions are a great idea. The people would suffer, but they're already suffering, and it would lead them to unrest and unhappiness with their government. It WOULD end up pressuring the government, and it is a great step to take now.

[General Leang 0]

Steve Hartman, a United States Marine, had much the same idea in cutting funds and providing aid directly to the people of Iraq, so it may or may not be as farfetched as one might think. Maybe I am thinking of the efforts the UN accomplished in Somalia too much. Would part of the problem be that because there is a central government Kim Jong would have greater grounds to remove any type of relief effort? If that is so then I can see why it would be so difficult to take any action of this type. How about supporting a coup of North Korea?

[TheBlackOut 7]

How about supporting a coup of North Korea?

 

Didn't we do that with Cuba?

[General Leang 0]

And Iraq, and Afghanistan. I see what you are saying. Would a coup be seen as more politically acceptable than an actual invasion?

[TheBlackOut 7]

Why can't we just bomb the capital? Level it and don't even invade, just bomb the crap out of it. Then leave.

[Saracen 16]

Cos that'll only give reason for them to continue the development of their nuclear arsenal.

 

This situation militarily can be dealt with 2 ways. You can either go all out and send NK back to the stoneage by taking the country by force, hoping to god that China doesn't send half it's army down like they did in the Korean War when the US last attempted an invaision to help the South Koreans.

 

Or you can do it covertly, get some special forces in to attempt assasination of hong kong fooey and get out hoping that the job is done without repercussions.

 

Or we can do nothing and allow NK to continue to a point where it's all too late and we see a few 100,000 US citizens get pwn3d. As I've already stated elsewhere we're at the start of a 2nd Cold War. Everyone wants to do something, but are almost scared of doing so just in case there's no going back. But what everyone is doing at the moment shouting words of defiance, yeah, that's gonna make the commies reconsider, I think not! :roll:

[tommy 0]

The thing is North Korea is invading everyone now. It hates everyone. Now that their aids are cut off, what do we expect next?

[General Leang 0]

North Korea putting it onto the UN that sanctions against them are a declaration of war, according to what I have witnessed on the news. Was it not Kim Jong who threatened to turn America into a sea of fire? And his ambassordors are throwing around accusations of double standereds.

[Mario 0]

Nk are fools if they theing they could have any hopes of winning a war agains the world

[Guest Rabbit]

Well, it's been attempted in the past with Germany.

[Mario 0]

yes but then the germans kinda had better military tech than everyone else did

[TheBlackOut 7]

I don't see them invading anyone. Why?

 

North is China, you don't wanna mess with that, not even the U.S.

 

South is S. Korea.... Which they have an okay military and are backed by the U.S., which even N. Korea invaded I would believe that a lot of Europe and Asia would come to help S. Korea.

[Mario 0]

so there for they are foolish for even thinking of making a war decleration

[Guest Rabbit]

Yet they didn't.

[F15pilotX 4]

I don't see them invading anyone. Why?

 

North is China, you don't wanna mess with that, not even the U.S.

 

South is S. Korea.... Which they have an okay military and are backed by the U.S., which even N. Korea invaded I would believe that a lot of Europe and Asia would come to help S. Korea.

I'm pretty sure SK might have nuclear weapons as well; correct me if I'm wrong :wink: