CNCNZ.com Roundtable #17 - February 2009

[Sonic 302]

Edition number 17 of the CNCNZ.com Roundtable has arrived, and it's back to the regular format this month after our Fan Only special last month. In this new Roundtable we discuss Red Alert 3 Uprising's Release, The Red Alert Button, Frank's Back for Uprising, Red Alert 3: Ultimate Edition and Six Years of Generals.

 

Here is the panel for this month.

• Sonic - CNCNZ.com Webmaster
• Luk3us - CNCNZ.com Forums Moderator
• Lion - Red Alert Den
• Banshee - Project Perfect Mod
• HeXetic - Planet CNC
• Assassin - CNC Source
• Blbpaws - CNC Generals World
• JohnWE - CNC-Files

Click here to read Roundtable Discussion #17.

[ApornasPlanet 10]

I agree with HeXetic and Assassin on almost everything. Btw we should start a new thread regarding which features we want from the next C&C engine(the engine that the next C&C game will probably use).

[Silverthorn 0]

Perhaps I have to give Generals a chance after Assassin spoke out, after all, it's pretty obvious that hardcore C&C fans want their C&C as in side bar & construction yards. But after RA3 came out well without too much controversy, including myself not necessary need to ask for all factions to play in MCV construction style (Allied's build system), the Nanocore building method is pure new & original.

 

As a matter of fact, if Generals 2 would to be under development, there will be several key things it must be followed :

 

1. Full Motion videos & CGI

2. Frank Klepacki

3. Give some classic C&C taste, Generals 1 was a pure failure as classified as regular normal RTS, NOT officially C&C gameplay styled. OR can follow as RA3's style with the use of the Soviet & Empire build system (Not to forget the original Allied's too).

4. Side bar

5. Preferably to stick with something a lot more fictional rather than close to reality

 

No. 5 is what I'm concerned the most, the most controversial one is China's, especially blowing up Tiananmen & their other monuments hurt their feelings (Especially the government, both politics & military), that's why the game was banned. So it's best that EA should be careful of that, RA3 was a huge success when they removed the nuke as well as the Hiroshima & Nagasaki names.

 

Anyway, good luck, EA. That's all I can say for now.

[chickendippers 1]

I'm praying for Uprising to be released on Steam, failing that I might take a look at D2D. I'm not really satisfied with the EA Store; it limits the number of times you can download in a month, you can only re-download for 6 months after which you have to pay again, and backing up to a DVD is not particularly straight forward.

[Malevolence 6]

In regards to RA3U, I feel sad for fans (such as banshee) who have weaker internet speed, as what Assassin and Blbpaws said, I wish for a retail box too.

 

As for Generals topic, like what some folks mentioned, this universe of C&C has brought a lot of emotions and commotions in the community. We see fans who are angry, we see fans who disregard Generals as a C&C game and so on. Well personally, as much as I hate Generals at one point of time, ZH redeemed itself with many interesting features such as Generals Challenge and specialized sub factions. This universe has been doing great in MP, but the SP just couldn't do well. I'm giving high hopes for a potential sequel, or possibly remake or reimagined version. I'm looking forward to a sidebar though, and a good SP with good FMVs as well as improving the MP experience.

[Banshee 28]

My internet is not that slow. At least 235 kilobytes per second is not slow in my opinion. It is unstable. Some days it works perfectly, but on other days I have to restart my modem very often or even do a phone call to my phone line to 'wake it up' or the connection simply drops very often. Today my connection is doing fine, but I don't know for how long.

Edited March 2, 2009 by Banshee

[Gben 20]

Good roundtable.

 

Re: digital download.

Kanes Wrath sold for $50 at retail. If I had a choice of $50 for a retail box or $40 for a digital download - I would probably stick with retail. For $30 however the scales are tipped and I'd happily download it.

 

Re: Red Alert Button

Apparently I'm an ignorant fool, I have no idea what you're all talking about. I figured it out by the end, and recalled something about this before the game came out. Seems interesting, but I think JohnWE's comment is most telling... it doesn't sound EPIC enough.

 

Re: Frank

I would have prefered 1 remix and 2 originals. He does good remixes.

 

Re: PS3 Ultimate

I don't understand all the comments about no market. Was there a market for RTS before Dune II?????? They created the market, essentially. And now to a whole new generation of console players, they are trying again to monopolise the market. Kudos to them. I still think they should just enable keyboards and mouse for the consoles... I will repeat that statement until the day I day probably.

 

Re: Generals

I really like Hexetics comments... nothing more to add here I guess.

Edited March 3, 2009 by gben