What continent are you from?

[Alphabear 11]

Yes i know that germany did not actually start WW2 what i ment was that WW2 was started because germany was invadeing foreign lands thus brought it on them selves. It was bad wording by me there.

 

and yes those murders are included in the statistics. Also they arnt the only culture that can condone the slaughter of 3000 innocents. far more innocent civilians have diesd as a result of the invasion of Iraq. Dont go saying that most of them were terrorists either as your contradicting the wars aim to free the good people of iraq. I also agree that Sadams reigeme had to be changed but they should still be able to live without being forced to live under their own culture. Not all islamic states are millitary dictatorships.

 

Oh that's just adorable... there are still some commie idealists out there!

true communism has never been tested so how do you know it dosnt work. another example of propaganda there as the Soviet Union were not actually true communists.

 

I know you libs have very, very short term memory, but I'll help you out

how the hell do you know that im a lib. cause your a bit off the mark there.

[Cygnus X-1 12]

He gets the imprssion that you are one because of the nature of your post.

 

Now, children, lets not argue this one out and lock yet another thread.

 

Communism doest work. "True Communism" has been tested before. Then it was pretty much destroyed by The United States of America along with allies (Britian ect...)

 

It is a wonderful idea on paper, but it just doesnt work.

 

And I challenge you, how does the capitalist West have a higher crime rate than Dictator Commies ? By numbers we do, but thats because we are much larger, by percentages, we deffinetly do not. Our government is elected by the people and protects the people, it doest rape the women, kill the children, and conscript the men.

[Acerz492 1]

Oh grow up guys, no-one cares about Communism anymore. :roll: Well except for a select few, it seems. >_>

 

How about we retun to the topic at hand?

[BWare 0]

Also they arnt the only culture that can condone the slaughter of 3000 innocents. far more innocent civilians have diesd as a result of the invasion of Iraq

Dude, you have to be kidding me... Now let me make this as clear as I can: America does NOT "condone" the slaughter of innocents. With us, it's regrettable collateral damage. To those monsters, it's a celebrated victory. THAT'S the difference, and only blind fools like you fail to see it. It's pathetic. Again, the lib propaganda (yes, you are one...) has infected you.

 

 

@Acerz-

Communism is still a threat dude... the foolish idea (nice on paper, but impossible in application) is still alive and well in some parts of the world. Dropping your guard is just stupid...

 

But yeah, communism demands complete and total conformity, the absolute destruction of any contrary ideas, and, probably worst of all, the institutionalization of atheism and complete destruction of religion. It is, by its very nature, brutal beyond words. This is why when it's tried, millions of people seem to be murdered. Interesting. MAYBE MANKIND IS REJECTING THE UNNATURAL SYSTEM, eh?

 

Commies talking....

"After the revolution we will all eat strawberries!"

"I, uh, don't like strawberries."

"AFTER THE REVOLUTION WE WILL ALL EAT STRAWBERRIES."

 

It's an incredibly dangerous political ideaology. Commies I know of talk about murdering their parents for the good of the "revolution." It's sick.

[Alphabear 11]

no i am not a lib. I just like to debate, especially political. anyway i am interested in what you beleive true communism to be. because you seem to be talking about communism in russia, china, nkorea, cuba etc. which are/were not true communist states.

 

Then again its probably best if we just get back on topic cause i see that this argument isnt going to end.

[Acerz492 1]

@Acerz-

Communism is still a threat dude... the foolish idea (nice on paper, but impossible in application) is still alive and well in some parts of the world. Dropping your guard is just stupid...

 

Some parts of the world, maybe, but not on a global scale. Therefore it dosen't really matter, does it? There is no threat. :roll:

 

I drop my guard for a reason: New Zealand is too insignificant to be considered worth anything, so we have nothing to fear from the "threat of communism". On the other hand, America shouldn't have anything to fear from the threat of communism, because you guys -are- the most powerful nation on Earth, right?

 

You're too paranoid. :wink:

 

Then again its probably best if we just get back on topic cause i see that this argument isnt going to end.

 

Like I stated before.

[GeneralZ 0]

capitalism is the answer because it allows people with determination and wish to be succesful to get a chance. if you wanna get rich by doing nothing....its not gonna work so dont complain.

 

wanna get rich? start thinking, fill a niche, get creative and focused, and u'll do well.

 

see that individualist drive in communism? NO. thats whats makes us western capitalist countries superior to commies

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That's a very good explanation there GeneralZ. Communism is always a complete failure, no matter how it's tried. Always.

 

The American capitalist system is about as close to perfect an economic system as we can possibly achieve, all for the reasons stated above.

[Acerz492 1]

You say this when you have a monkey-man as president?

 

I do admire your patriotism! :lol:

[BWare 0]

monkey-man?? Oh no Acerz... don't tell me they've gotten to you too!! You know about our future Crusade Against Stupidity... don't think that I won't turn on you too in the name of the revolution!!

[Acerz492 1]

:haha: I'm mocking Bush's looks. :wink: Seriously! He looks like a monkey!

 

You know about our future Crusade Against Stupidity... don't think that I won't turn on you too in the name of the revolution!!

 

Aww, how sad. I was going to enjoy cleansing the gene pool with you.

[BWare 0]

Oh... I see. Well, I suppose that yes, that is legit. Welcome back aboard!! The gene pool will thank us some day.......

[TheBlackOut 7]

@Acerz-

Communism is still a threat dude... the foolish idea (nice on paper, but impossible in application) is still alive and well in some parts of the world. Dropping your guard is just stupid...

 

Some parts of the world, maybe, but not on a global scale. Therefore it dosen't really matter, does it? There is no threat. :roll:

 

I drop my guard for a reason: New Zealand is too insignificant to be considered worth anything, so we have nothing to fear from the "threat of communism". On the other hand, America shouldn't have anything to fear from the threat of communism, because you guys -are- the most powerful nation on Earth, right?

 

You're too paranoid. :wink:

 

Then again its probably best if we just get back on topic cause i see that this argument isnt going to end.

 

Like I stated before.

 

Drop our guard? How do you think things become a global threat?! They start small and grow, fire can start small in a forest but then grow and consume 10,000 acres.

 

If you ignore something when its small, it can bite you in the ass one day.

[Acerz492 1]

Oh... I see. Well, I suppose that yes, that is legit. Welcome back aboard!! The gene pool will thank us some day.......

 

Cheers buddy! You know I'd never abandon the crusade unless it was absolutly necessary. :wink:

 

Drop our guard? How do you think things become a global threat?! They start small and grow, fire can start small in a forest but then grow and consume 10,000 acres.

 

If you ignore something when its small, it can bite you in the ass one day.

 

Maybe back in the 60's, 70's and 80's. :roll: Communism isn't the threat it once was, and it will never be ever again.

[F15pilotX 4]

Thankfully...now we just need to take out Vietnamese, N. Koreaan, and (mabye) Chinese leadership, and we're set

[Acerz492 1]

No, we don't. :roll:

 

Jeez, no wonder you Americans get accused of warmongering. :roll:

[Alphabear 11]

lol im suprised you didnt mention cuba

[Cygnus X-1 12]

and what is Cuba gona do to anybody ? Sell them a few more paper bags wrapped around a leaf or two ?

 

Fidel Castro will die in a few years (seriously, hes like 80 years old, and look at the shiit he's been smoking the entire time)

 

besides, if Cuba tried to threaten anybody, 1st, we would laugh at them, 2nd, we would threaten to sink them, just like in 63 with the Cuban Missile Crissis. Which was the Russians doing BTW, not the Cubans.

[Alphabear 11]

i never said cuba was a threat. f15pilot said we just need to take out nam, china, nkorea and we would be set. I was saying i was suprised that if you were gonna go to all that effort to get rid of communism why not cuba also

[Cygnus X-1 12]

because Cuba posses no threat. They are already "in the bag" so to speak

[Alphabear 11]

vietnam posses no threat either unless you invade them again

[Cygnus X-1 12]

/ :roll: /

 

thats why we arent going to invade them again :roll:

[F15pilotX 4]

No, we don't. :roll:

 

Jeez, no wonder you Americans get accused of warmongering. :roll:

I was joking (partly )

 

lol im suprised you didnt mention cuba

If you would research a subject, you would know this :roll:

 

DRAFT ASSURANCE TO THE SOVIET UNION

"Provided no nuclear weapons or(3) weapon systems capable of offensive use are present in or reintroduced into Cuba, and the United States is in position to be satisfied on these points; and provided Cuba does not invade or support an invasion of any other country, the United States declares that it will not invade Cuba or support an invasion of Cuba. This declaration(4) does not alter any of the rights or obligations(5) set forth in the UN Charter and the Rio Pact."

 

That's why I didn't say Cuba :wink:

 

and the part I got is near the very bottom of that page :wink:

[Alphabear 11]

sorry i thought you were talking about just eliminating communist countries

[Cygnus X-1 12]

well he was, but seeing as how Cuba posses no threat, there is no need to clear them out. Besides, like i said, Fidel Castro is like 80 years old, and hes been smoking them Cuban masterpieces since he was two, so hes bound to kick the bucket (or more likely trip over it) sooner or later.