Alpha's - can they be taken down?

[Cygnus X-1 12]

not entirely sure what you meant by that :?

 

Best to pick a less defended route and supersonic in on the opposite end of the base from the less defended route so they have an easier time flying out

 

if you meant possition them to crash into their stuff, that doesnt work :wink:

[Guest MadBadger]

no i think the idear is fly in through the front where the most deff normaly is then after yove droped the bomb manual cotrol it out past the defence at the back and sides which isnt normaly too strong.

 

I cant remember but do Air gens Arouras have point laser? i dont think ive ever used them before so im not too sure.

[Cygnus X-1 12]

yes they do, and coupled with countermeasures, its quite useful. But dont rely on that to get your auroras out, they still need to be guided.

[Dark_Kodiak 0]

not entirely sure what you meant by that :?

 

Best to pick a less defended route and supersonic in on the opposite end of the base from the less defended route so they have an easier time flying out

 

if you meant possition them to crash into their stuff, that doesnt work :wink:

 

I meant this :wink: :wink:

 

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2382/step17ws.png

Get them to fly to enemys flank by force fire so they go super sonic.

 

 

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6154/step24rc.png

Get them to go behind your target atleast 2 sreens away.

 

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/8564/step31yu.png

ATTACK!!!

 

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2884/step47lb.png

Let em go to your airfield without doing the half circle maneuver that always gets them killed

 

And if they do get killed, they might crash into their stuff :wink:

[Cygnus X-1 12]

ah I see what you mean. Cept for 2 things. Well 3.

 

1: No need to forcefire to get them to go around, just tell them too

 

2: on the way out you have them going out the front door. Which is traditionally the strongest defended. Ouch

 

3: even if they do crash into their stuff, it wont do any damage

 

but nice drawing out of plan. Very easy to interpret.

[Dark_Kodiak 0]

ah I see what you mean. Cept for 2 things. Well 3.

 

1: No need to forcefire to get them to go around, just tell them too

 

2: on the way out you have them going out the front door. Which is traditionally the strongest defended. Ouch

 

3: even if they do crash into their stuff, it wont do any damage

 

but nice drawing out of plan. Very easy to interpret.

 

ah time for my 2 replies, Well 3

 

1] Use force fire to make em go supersonic to avoid any light AA that might slow them down enough (critical status) to be hit on the way out.

 

2] By the time the Auroras are going out the front door, they still have enough boost from their previous speed to make the AA miss -or- they still goin supersonic for 4 seconds which is enough to get em out alive

 

3]It wont do any noticable damage, but if its a group of infantry ... well ... we've all seen what emperors do to scorpions under their treads

 

& I 'specially like teh smiley =) :lol:

[Cygnus X-1 12]

reply to

 

[1]-light AA wont slow them down on the way in, and they still go supersonci when you just tell them to fly somewhere as long as they have a bomb loaded

 

[2]-good point, ive seen them still avoiding shots after "letting loose"

 

[3]-would you be refering to this particullar pic ?

 

[AzianPhoenix 0]

^Omg LOL!

 

The SuperWeapon general is definately about the Aurora's, I have nerve to say that her Partical Cannon comes in second compared to them =P. It's just that even though this general stresses base defenses, she really doesn't have good base defenses at all. Any unit that can outrange her EMP patriots/Firebases (Rocket buggies, Scud Launcers, Inferno Cannons, Nuke Cannons, Tomahawks) can just utterly destroy you while completely safe. Any attempt to send in an Aurora to take them out is futile as all siege is cheaper than the Alpha Aurora and the enemy WILL be able to shoot it down since they will have anti-air guarding their siege since you were using aircraft so much.

 

Btw, the plan that shows the alternative attack route will only help a little, as on the way back, they would still have to fly over AA vehicles in the field in "sluggish" mode, and taking out enemy AA in the field is stupid, the Aurora will not hit mobile AA vehicles that are moving... Unless you have that much micro that you lead your bomb for every target, and even then, there are enough AA units/vehicles to take you down because you blast didn't get every one...

[Cygnus X-1 12]

Your somewhat wrong on the seige part there. All missile artillery are useless, cause they get shot down by emps.

 

Auroras are good for killing EMPs, specially with countermeasures, and even PL (when your AF gen)

 

If you deploy seige artillery she wil lsend out auroras to pwn them. (well a good General Alexander player would.)

[Dark_Kodiak 0]

Alexis does have her own Tomahawk Launchers (see avatar) wich will counter your seige weapons.

[AzianPhoenix 0]

When playing against the hard computer and most online opponents they have anti-air guarding the siege, and I'm talking about the bullet and laser type AA... anyway, I found that if I micro my alpha aurora's a bit more and use force fire, I can take out more targets in a go, so that has helped greatly in getting Aurora's back alive. I'll give EMP patriots a better go as well.

 

BTW, since the 1.04 patch can you still do that scud storm thing where you can fire a missile or 3, stop the rest, and fire at another target?

[Guest MadBadger]

Scud bug... Hell no

 

alphas just suck 1 2500 unit can take out an entire group of 5-6 $900 tanks

[AzianPhoenix 0]

The Alpha CAN be taken out before it reaches it's target, just not practically, when in supersonic, if there is an Alpha behind, and an EMP patriot tries to shoot the first one, the one in the back gets emp'ed outta the sky. So you just don't send in Alpha's in tandem, and it won't happen. All superweapons can down aircraft, as well as the Fuel Air bomb (not the mini-fuel bomb the alpha carries of course).

 

O yeh, did anyone ever witness a dead plane carcass circling you for a whole game? I killed an Aurora with quad cannons and it never crashed the rest of the game, it just circled there, an empty plane carcass... kinda creepy.

[TheBlackOut 6]

O yeh, did anyone ever witness a dead plane carcass circling you for a whole game? I killed an Aurora with quad cannons and it never crashed the rest of the game, it just circled there, an empty plane carcass... kinda creepy.

 

Bug.

[Cygnus X-1 12]

O yeh, did anyone ever witness a dead plane carcass circling you for a whole game? I killed an Aurora with quad cannons and it never crashed the rest of the game, it just circled there, an empty plane carcass... kinda creepy.

 

Bug.

 

well arent you a smart cookie :wink:

 

@ Badger - dont group your tanks up so tightly. That also makes them terribly vulnerable to firestorms.

[AzianPhoenix 0]

Even the computer isn't so stupid to pack too many tanks together. Bleh, I do it sometimes cause I'm lazy, we just aren't as omnescient as computers, but we can beat em =D

[Guest MadBadger]

that plane things funny me and a mate spent 2 P-cannons and a nuke trying to knock it down

[Cygnus X-1 12]

/ your just hopeless

 

kill the airfield with 1 P cannon and the plane is dead when he comes back

[rEdaSbLood 1]

well lets just say that ZH had real-life chance events....freak accidents and all that

 

if an apache could be shot down in the middle east by a farmer with a rifle......

[Guest MadBadger]

Naa we were trying to shoot the burnt out Alpha down

 

also Reda dont you think someone might complain at the amount of tanks n planes shot up? you cant lose that amount of people in real life can you?

[rEdaSbLood 1]

lol i kno......WOW jus thinkn of it like that......

 

but it was just one of those 'what if'

[Woofna 0]

I actually have witnessed Auroras taking themselves down. When in a line, if 2 dropped a bomb and both bombs exploded DIRECTLY under a 3rd one, the shockwave will take the 3rd out.

[rEdaSbLood 1]

yea ive seen that happen....particle cannons take em out too...fuel air bomb....and just enough missles...esp. emp

[Cygnus X-1 12]

if the bombs hit a cliff they will kill the Bombers

 

@ Red-who the hell shot an apache down with a friggin rifle ?! And what caliber rifle ? A tank buster ?

[Dark_Kodiak 0]

if the bombs hit a cliff they will kill the Bombers

 

Not really. The bombs need to hit a building or some kind of obstacle to detonate. If they just drop them in a cliff, the bombs will go over the hill and still hit the target less its an Alpha wich WILL detonate the Fuel Air Bomb and possibly kill the 3rd