War Craft DotA-All-Star

[Cygnus X-1 12]

It would appear that somebody upstairs has taken your sig to heart.

 

Hope things get better for ya. Good luck with whatever you're up to now

 

back on topic here...War Craft DotA-All-Star. No idea what that is. :oops:

[rEdaSbLood 1]

a man once said that suffering builds character...i find that true.......keep your head high vamp :wink:

 

just look at the yinyan in my sig and u'll understand

[Cygnus X-1 12]

What, the Nod Insignia behind it? :eh:

[rEdaSbLood 1]

well thats just an awesome idea that i had...

 

but i meant the yinyan by itself...what it stands for...

[Cygnus X-1 12]

Wasnt sure what you meant there. Heck, Im not even the one you were talkign to.

[VampireA05 0]

ying & yang...

both good & bad in balance...

i can see it clearly..

 

but i believe in karma instead...

they'll pay...

 

recently, there's a lot of snatch thief happens around..what on earth happen..

 

i'm back to offshore..another 2 agonising weeks....

 

War Craft DotA-All-Star..its somekind of expansion for custom battle..or whatever it is...

but sure its fun when you're tired with other games...

 

i stop my PS2 now & play pc games alot...

[rEdaSbLood 1]

yinyan is about that too...

 

it represents alot of things actually

 

sympathy

karma

life

fortune

 

the idea how it represents karma is that with doing bad there will only be bad...and plus its base design is a circle :roll:

also, it encourages you to see some good in that event..the white dot in the black area...there may have been a lesson or something out of the situation..or maybe just even though you didnt, the theives benefited from it...

 

8)

[VampireA05 0]

yinyan is about that too...

 

it represents alot of things actually

 

sympathy

karma

life

fortune

 

the idea how it represents karma is that with doing bad there will only be bad...and plus its base design is a circle :roll:

also, it encourages you to see some good in that event..the white dot in the black area...there may have been a lesson or something out of the situation..or maybe just even though you didnt, the theives benefited from it...

 

8)

 

yeah..urite...

 

i always ask why there is bad thing??? unfortunately, its necessary evil.

[rEdaSbLood 1]

yes..

 

and one day we shall all bestow our own necessary evil...

 

as well as unecessary good ..

[VampireA05 0]

i hate to admit...

i always submit to the temptation...

[rEdaSbLood 1]

hedonist......... jk

[VampireA05 0]

hedonist......... jk

 

i'll check with my dictionary later...

[Inferno 22]

hedonist......... jk

 

Isn't that a life enjoyer/optimist or something?

[VampireA05 0]

bad vocabs.... :lol:

[BWare 0]

Isn't that a life enjoyer/optimist or something?

No no no... it's a person whose religion is essentially the pursuit of anything that brings pleasure to himself. Feeling good is their ultimate goal... pretty pathetic if you ask me. For an example, the Greeks were a very hedonistic culture, as were the Romans in their later years.

[Mr_Lee_ 0]

Feeling good is their ultimate goal... pretty pathetic if you ask me.

 

I could prove you wrong though the psychological theory 'Behaviourism', but we've had too many long fruitless discussions on here of late. I'll just say that anything you do is for a reward and leave it at that.

 

Epicurus was the Greek philosopher who believed pleasure was the highest form of living. A very valid state of mind to have in my opinion.

[BWare 0]

Lee, I know plenty about behaviorism. How could you possibly "prove me wrong" through it? Hedonism is, in fact, the pursuit of pleasure. More specifically, here's what the dictionary has to say about it:

Pursuit of or devotion to pleasure, especially to the pleasures of the senses.

There we have it. This extreme selfishness is something I consider pathetic. There are FAR greater things in life than your own personal pleasure. The behaviorism model you cited denies our freaking humanity dude. Only animals are that much slaves to their impulses. It's no excuse for human hedonism.

[Mr_Lee_ 0]

Since you know behaviourism, you'll know every behaviour is done in the pursuit of a reward - something which gives us pleasure - this is the essence of higher thinking, so hedonism is the state of mind we subconsciously occupy.

 

Do you do things because you feel compelled to or because of the possibility of satisfaction?

[BWare 0]

Mr_Lee_, you don't need to talk down to me. As I said earlier, as a bio major I am very familiar with the model. The difference between what motivates us and hedonism is that hedonism is a conscious decision to value pleasure over anything else. It's a way of life... and a pathetic one.

 

Also, behaviorism is JUST A MODEL. You're using it as absolute truth, which simply isn't true. Real life is far more complicated than the model would have you believe... though it can be a good guideline. Basically, you shouldn't base an argument entirely on it.

[Mr_Lee_ 0]

You're right, of course, I was using the model of behaviourism in relation to Epicurosy - the purest non conscious form of pleasure.

[BWare 0]

Gotcha. I see what you're saying, but I'm only talking in terms of the practical.... you know, real world. Sure, there's a degree of "hedonism" to all of us at the subconscious level... after all, reward is one of the strongest driving forces in biological systems. The pleasures associated with sex, eating, mothering in women, etc, all serve to propel us as a species. That said, devoting your life to pursuing these pleasures (ie, hedonism) is sick and wrong, and actually counteracts what those pleasures are designed for. That's all I'm saying :wink:

[Cygnus X-1 12]

Basic Elemental

Instinct to Survive

Stirs the higher passion

Thrill to be alive....

 

Animal instinct is to survive, and we know via instincts the differences between pleasure and pain, we subconsiously know that pain means something bad is happeneing to us, so we strive for the opposite, the good feelings.

 

I guess its a matter of conditioning as well.