I've got a Hobby!

[Gben 20]

Yes... I've got a hobby. I'm collecting information from the gameplay videos to get an idea of unit costs, abilities and strengths.

 

I have taken the current CNCNZ unit/structure lists from the C&C3 section and added the information. Obviously this should be considered ALPHA stage, I'll update as I see new information; when we get a BETA/DEMO is released; and probably for completions sake - when the game is released. Who knows I may even adjust it with the patches.. cause hey I've got a hobby.

 

Information last updated 2nd March 2007 from the official Demo... Stats taken from the Skirmish Level as there were variance between the prologue and campaign missions. Skirmish is best reflection of the mode we want right?!?

 

All other information is current as of current gameplay videos as of 2/2/2007.

 

Example of difference...

GDI Barracks cost the same but took 10sec to build instead of 5sec in the prologue.

 

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LEGEND: COST TO BUILD / TIME TO BUILD / POWER UNITS REQUIRED

 

--== GDI ==--

 

 

GDI STRUCTURES

 

Airfield

$1000 / 10sec / 8 power

Production Structure

 

Armoury

$1000 / 10sec / 7 power

Tech Structure

Infantry support centre

 

Barracks

$500 / 5sec / 5 power

Trains GDI infantry

 

Command Post

$1500 / 15sec / 9 power

Tech Structure

 

Crane

$1500 / 15sec / 10 power

Production Structure

 

Power Plant

$800 / 8 sec / Nil

Provides Power

 

Tech Centre

$4000 / 40sec / 12 power

Tech Structure

 

Tiberium Refinery

$2000 / 20sec / 6 power

Resource Structure

 

War Factory

$2000 / 20sec / 7 power

Production Structure

 

GDI SUPPORT STRUCTURES

 

AA Battery

$800 / 8sec / 5 power

Base Defence, Strong v Aircraft

 

Guardian Cannon

$1200 / 12sec / 8 power

Base Defence, Strong v Vehicles

 

Ion Cannon Control Centre

$5000 / 50sec / 20 power

Super Weapon

 

Sonic Emitter

$2000 / 20sec / 15 power

Advanced Base Defence, Strong v Vehicles

 

Surveyor

$1500 / 15 sec

Light Vehicle Weaponless

 

Tiberium Silo

$500 / 5sec / Nil

Resource Structure

 

Watch Tower

$600 / 6sec / 5 power

Base defence, Strong v Infantry

 

No information currently available:-

-Dock

-Medical Bay

-Radar

-Transforming Station

-Wall Hub

 

GDI INFANTRY UNITS

 

Commando

$2000 / 20sec

Elite Infantry. Strong v infantry, structures

Squad Size 1

 

Engineer

$500 / 5sec

Utility Infantry. Weaponless

Squad Size 1

 

Grenadier Squad

$800 / 8sec

Advanced Infantry, Strong v Infantry, Structures

Squad Size 4

 

Missile Squad

$400 / 4 sec

Basic Rocket Infantry / strong v infantry, aircraft

Squad Size 2

 

Rifleman Squad

$300 / 3 sec

Basic MG infantry, strong v infantry

Squad Size 6

 

Sniper Team

$1000 / 10 sec

Advanced Infantry, Strong v Infantry

Squad Size 2 (Sniper & Spotter?)

 

Zone Trooper

$1300 / 13sec

Heavy Infantry. Strong v Vehicles, Structures

Squad Size 4

 

GDI VEHICLE UNITS

 

APC

$700 / 7 sec

Transport Vehicle. Strong v Infantry, Aircraft

 

Harvester

$1000 / 10sec

Resource Vehicle

 

Juggernaut

$2200 / 22sec

Heavy Artillery. Strong v Structures

 

Mammoth Tank

$2500 / 25sec

Heavy Tank. Strong v Vehicles, Structures

 

MCV

$2500 / 25sec

Construction Vehicle. Weaponless

 

Pitbull

$700 / 7sec

Light Vehicle, Strong v Aircraft

 

Predator Tank

$1100 / 11 sec

Medium Tank. Strong v Vehicles, Structures

 

Rig

$2000 / 20sec

Utility Vehicle / Weaponless

 

GDI AIRCRAFT

 

Orca Fighter

$1100 / 11sec

Assault Aircraft, Strong v Vehicles

 

Firehawk

$1500 / 15sec

Heavy Aircraft. Strong v Vehicles, Structures, Aircraft

 

No information currently available:-

Orca VTOL Transport

 

GDI BUILD CUE

 

Key:

-buildings

--units

 

MCV

-Power Plant

-Refinery

-Crane

-Surveyor

 

Power Plant

-Barracks

-Watchtower

 

Refinery

-War Factory

-Command Post

-Tiberium Silo

 

War Factory

--Pitbull

--Predator Tank

--APC

--Harvester

--MCV

 

Barracks

-Armory

-Guardian Cannon

--rifleman squad

--missile squad

--engineer

 

Armory

--Sniper Team

 

Command Post

-Airfield

-Tech Centre

-AA Battery

--Grenadier Squad

--Rig

 

Airfield

---Orca

 

Tech Centre

-Space Command Uplink

-Sonic Emitter

-Ion Cannon Control Center

--Zone Trooper

--Mammoth Tank

--Juggernaut

--Firehawk

 

Armory + Tech Center

--Commando

 

GDI INFANTRY ABILITIES

Infantry can

-Call for Transport (Airfield)

Infantry receive

-Composite Armour

 

Engineer

-Capture Structures

-Call for transport (Airfield)

-Capture Walker Husk

-Repair Structure

-Repair Bridge

 

Rifleman Squad

-Dig in

 

Grenadier Squad

-Clear Garrisoned structure

 

Sniper Team

-Stealthed

-Spots target for Juggernauts

 

Commando

-Jump jets

-Destroy Structure

-Destroy Walker

Only one commando can be trained at a time

 

Zone Trooper

-Jump Jets

Upgrades

-Power Packs (Armory)

-Scanner Packs (Armory)

 

GDI VEHICLE ABILITIES

 

APC

-Transport Infantry

-Place Minefield

 

Harvester

-Gather Tiberium

-Light Machine Gun

 

Juggernaut

-Bombard Spotted Target

 

Pitbull

-Detects Stealth

Upgrades

-Mortars (tech Centre)

 

Predator Tank

Upgrades

-Rail Guns (Tech Centre)

 

Mammoth Tank

-Rail Gun (Tech Centre)

 

MCV

-Unpack into Construction Yard

 

Rig

-Unlocks into Battle base

-battle base can defend a target and repair nearby vehicles

 

GDI AIRCRAFT ABILITIES

 

Orca Fighter

-Pulse Scan

Upgrades

-Sensor Pods (Tech Centre)

 

Firehawk

-Select loadout

Upgrades

-Stratofighter (tech Centre)

 

No information currently available:-

Orca VTOL Transport

 

GDI RESEARCH TREE

 

Armoury

-Infantry Composite Armour

-Zone Trooper Scanner Packs

-Zone trooper Power packs

 

Command Post

Provides Support Powers

-Radar Scan

 

Tech Centre

Researches Upgrades

-tank rail guns

-Firehawk stratofighter boosters

-Orcas sensor Pods

-Pitbull mortars

-Power Plant Advanced Turbines

 

GDI SUPPORT POWERS

 

Orca Strike

$500

Offensive Power

Orders several Orca Attack Aircraft to bombard a location on the battlefield

3 Orcas

Building Required

-Airfield

 

GDI Airborne

$1000

Reinforcement Power

Deploys several veteran rifleman and missile squads to the battlefield

2 squads of each

Building Required

-Armory

 

Radar Scan

$250

Intelligence Power

Removes the shroud and reveals stealthed units for a short period of time

Building Required

-Command Post

 

Sharpshooter Team

$2500

Reinforcement Power

Deploys several veteran sniper teams to the battlefield

3 squads

Building Required

-Tech Centre

 

Bloodhounds

$2000

Reinforcement power

Deploys several veteran Pitbull's and APCS to the battlefield

2 of each

Building Required

-War Factory & Airfield

 

Zone Trooper Drop Pods

$3000

Reinforcement Power

Deploys several squads of veteran Zone troopers to the battlefield

3 Squads

Building Required

-Space Command Uplink

 

Shockwave Artillery

$1500

Offensive Power

Sonic Artillery shells bombard an area for blast and EMP damage

Building Required

-Space Command Uplink

 

Ion Cannon

Superweapon

Fire the devastating ion cannon at any location on the battlefield

7min

Building Required

-Space Command Uplink + Ion Cannon Control Centre

 

 

 

 

--== Nod == --

 

NOD PRODUCTION STRUCTURES

 

Air Tower

$1000 / 10sec / 5 power

Production Structure

 

Crane

$1500 / 15sec / 10 power

Production Structure

 

Hand of Nod

$500 / 5sec / 5 power

Production Structure

 

Operations Centre

$1500 / 15sec / 10 power

Tech Structure

 

Power plant

$500 / 5sec

Tech Structure

 

Refinery

$2000 / 20sec / 6 power

Resource Structure

 

Secret Shrine

$1500 / 15sec / 8 power

Tech Structure

 

Tech Lab

$4000 / 40sec / 15 power

Tech Structure

 

Tiberium Chemical Plant

$3000 / 30sec / 15 power

Tech Structure

 

War Factory

$2000 / 20sec / 5 power

Production structure

 

NOD SUPPORT STRUCTURES

 

Disruption Tower

$1000 / 10sec / 10 power

Advanced Base Defence

 

Emissary

$1500 / 15sec

Utility Vehicle. Weaponless

 

Laser Turret

$1200 / 12 sec / 10 power

Base defence, strong v vehicle

 

Obelisk of Light

$1800 / 18sec / 15 power

Advanced base defence. Strong v Vehicles

 

SAM Turret

$800 / 8 sec / 6 power

Base defence, Strong v aircraft

 

Shredder Turret

$600 / 6sec / 6 power

Base defence, strong v infantry

 

Tiberium Silo

$500 / 5sec /

Resource Structure

 

Temple of Nod

$5000 / 50sec / 20 power

SuperWeapon

 

NOD INFANTRY UNITS

 

Black Hand

$900 / 9sec

Elite Infantry. Strong v Infantry, Structures

Squad Size 6

 

Commando

$2000 / 20sec

Elite Infantry. Strong v Infantry, Structures

Squad size 1

 

Fanatics

$800 / 8sec

Suicide Infantry. Strong v Vehicles, Structures

Squad Size 5

 

Militant rifleman

$200 / 2 sec

Basic MG Infantry, strong v infantry

Squad Size 9

 

Militia rocket squad

$400 / 4 sec

Basic Rocket Infantry. Strong v Vehicles, Aircraft

Squad Size 2

 

Saboteur

$500 / 5 sec

Utility Infantry. Weaponless

Squad Size 1

 

Shadow Team

$800 / 8sec

Elite Infantry. Strong v Infantry

Squad Size 4

 

NOD VEHICLE UNITS

 

Attack Bike

$600 / 6sec

Scout vehicle, strong v aircraft

 

Avatar Warmech

$3000 / 30sec

Heavy Mech. Strong v vehicles, Structures

 

Flame Tank

$1000 / 10sec

Medium Tank. Strong v Infantry, Structures

 

Harvester

$1000 / 10sec

Resource Vehicle / Weaponless

 

MCV

$2500 / 25sec

Construction Vehicle. Weaponless

 

Raider Buggy

$400 / 4sec

Light vehicle, strong v infantry, aircraft

 

Scorpion Tank

$800 / 8sec

Light tank Strong v vehicles

 

Stealth Tank

$1000 / 10sec

Hit and run Tank. Strong v Vehicles, Aircraft

 

Beam Cannon

$1000 / 10sec

Medium Artillery. Strong v Vehicles, Structures

 

NOD AIRCRAFT UNITS

 

Venom

$700 / 7sec

Light aircraft. Strong v Infantry, Aircraft.

 

Vertigo Bomber

$1800 / 18sec

Heavy Bomber. Strong v Structures

 

NOD BUILD CUE

 

MCV

-Power Plant

-Refinery

-Crane

-Emissary

 

Power Plant

-Hand of Nod

-Shredder Turret

 

Refinery

-War Factory

-Operations Centre

-Tiberium Silo

 

Hand of Nod

-Secret Shrine

-Laser Turret

--Militant Squad

--Militant Rocket Squad

--Saboteur

 

Secret Shrine

-Disruption Tower

--Shadow Team

 

Operations Centre

-Air Tower

-Tech Lab

-Sam turret

--Fanatics

--Black Hand

--Flame Tank

 

Air Tower

--Venom

 

Tech Lab

-Tiberium Chemical Plant

-Obelisk of light

-Temple of Nod

--Stealth Tank

--Beam Tank

--Avatar Warmech

--Vertigo Bomber

 

War Factory

--Attack Bike

--Raider Buggy

--Scorpion Tank

--Harvester

--MCV

 

Secret Shrine & Tech Lab

--Commando

 

NOD INFANTRY ABILITIES

 

Infantry can

-call for transport (air tower)

 

Black Hand

-Clear Garrisoned Structure

 

Commando

-Stealthed while standing still

-Destroy Structure

-Destroy Walker

Only one commando may be trained at a time

 

Saboteur

-capture building

-booby trap

-Call for transport

-Capture walker husk

-repair bridge

-repair building

 

Shadow Team

-Stealthed

-Glider Pack

-Explosive Charge

 

NOD VEHICLE ABILITIES

 

Attack Bike

-Detects Stealth

-Call for transport (Air tower)

 

Avatar Warmech

-Commandeer technology

 

Flame Tank

-Clear garrisoned Structures

 

Harvester

-gather Tiberium

-stealthed

1 load of green Tiberium = $1400

 

MCV

-Unpacks into Construction Yard

 

Raider Buggy

-Call for transport (Air tower)

 

Scorpion Tank

-Call for transport (Air tower)

 

Stealth Tank

-Stealthed

 

Beam Cannon

-Reflector beam

-Charge Defences

-Call for transport (Air tower)

 

NOD AIRCRAFT ABILITIES

 

Venom

-Detects stealth

-Spots target for Beam cannons

 

Vertigo Bomber

-stealthed

-rear anti-air turret

 

NOD SUPPORT STRUCTURES ABILITIES

 

Disruption Tower

-Stealths nearby Units and structures

 

Emissary

-Unpacks into Outpost

-Outpost provides ground control to place structures

-Call for transport (Air Tower)

 

Laser Turret

-Detects Stealth

-Place hub then three surrounding turrets

-if hub is lost all turrets are destroyed

 

Obelisk of Light

-Advanced base defence

 

SAM Turret

-Place hub then three surrounding turrets

-if hub is lost all turrets are destroyed

 

Shredder Turret

-Detects Stealth

-Place hub then three surrounding turrets

-if hub is lost all turrets are destroyed

 

Temple of Nod

-Launches the Nuclear Missile SuperWeapon

-Master Computer countermeasures

Only one temple of nod may be built at a time

 

NOD RESEARCH TREE

 

Air Tower

-Nod Ground Units: Call for transport

 

Secret Shrine

-Infantry confessors

-Infantry Tiberium infusion

 

Tech Lab

-Raider buggy EMP coils

-Scorpion tank dozer blades

-Venom signature generators

-Laser Capacitors

-Power Plant Liquid Tiberium Core

 

NOD SUPPORT POWERS

 

Decoy Army

$500

Intelligence Power

Creates a purely visual cloned army of units

Can only be used on ground units

Building Required

-Operations Centre

 

Radar Jamming Missile

$750

Intelligence Power

Temporarily shuts down all enemy radars

Building Required

-Operations Centre

 

Cloaking Field

$1500

Utility Power

Stealths allied vehicles in the target area.

Causes devastating damage to allied and enemy infantry

Building Required

-Tech Lab

 

Shadow Strike Team

$1600

Reinforcement Power

Deploys several squads of Veteran Shadows to the battlefield

2 Squads

Building Required

-Secret Shrine

 

Catalyst Missile

$1500

Offensive Power

Launches a catalyst Missile that causes a destructive chain reaction when contacting Tiberium

Building Required

-Tiberium Chemical Plant

 

Seed Tiberium

$500

Resource Power

Sprays an area with Liquid Tiberium, Accelerating the rate of Tiberium growth.

Building Required

-Tiberium Chemical Plant

 

Tiberium Vapour Bomb

$3500

Offensive Power

An aircraft drops a vapour bomb on the battlefield

Building Required

-Tiberium Chemical Plant

 

Nuclear Missile

SuperWeapon

Launches a nuclear missile from the temple of Nod

Building Required

-Temple of Nod

 

Mine Drop

$1500

Defensive Power

Places a stealthed minefield on the battlefield

Building Required

-Air Tower

 

 

 

Alien Units

 

Annihilator Tripod

$3000 / 30sec

Heavy Walker / Strong v Vehicles & Structures

Upgrades

• Force field Generator (Technology Assembler)

Abilities

• Combine with buzzers

Unlocks / Upgrades

• reactor fusion core

 

Corruptor

$1000 / 10sec

Medium Vehicle - Strong v infantry, structures

Available Abilities

• clear garrisoned structures

• combine with buzzers

 

Devourer Tank

$1200 / 12sec

Medium Tank - Strong v Vehicles, Structures

Available Abilities

• conversion beam

• combine with buzzers

 

Gun Walker

$700 / 7sec

Medium Vehicle / Strong v Infantry & Aircraft

Available Abilities

• combine with buzzers

 

Disintegrators

$300 / 3sec

Basic Infantry / strong v vehicles & structures

Available Abilities

• explodes when crushed

 

No information currently available:-

Assimilator (Engineer)

Buzzers (Razor Drones)

Devastator Warship Mastermind

Drone Ship

Floating Gatherer (Harvester)

Mothership

Planetary Assault Carrier

Seeker Tank

Shock Trooper

Storm Rider

 

 

 

 

Alien Structures

 

Reactor (Power)

$600 / 6sec

Tech Structure

 

Nerve Centre (Radar)

$1500 / 15sec / 8 power

Tech Structure

Provides access to advanced units and structures

Provides support powers

• the swarm

• tiberium vibration scan

• lightning spike

• reconstruction drones

 

Photon Canon

$1200 / 12sec / 4 power

Base Defence / Strong v Vehicles

 

Extractor (Refinery)

$2000 / ? sec / ? power

 

No information currently available:-

Air Portal

Buzzer Hive (Barracks ???)

Control Centre

Drone Platform

Gateway

Heavy Portal

Plasma Missle Battery (Anti-Air)

Portal (Barracks ???)

Power Generator

Rift Generator (Super Weapon)

Signal Transmitter

Spore Pod

Stasis Chamber (Infantry upgrades)

Storm Column

Technology Assembler (Vehicle Upgrades)

Tiberium Tower

Warp Sphere (War Factory)

 

 

 

Civilian Tech Structures

 

No information currently available:-

Bunker

Communication Tower

Defensive Tower

EMP Control Centre

Multifunction Tech Upgrade Centre

Mutant Hovel

Reinforcement Pad

Satellite Launch Facility

Subway

Tiberium Silo

Tiberium Spike

 

 

Neutral Units buidable from Mutant Hovel:-

 

Mutant Gun Troops

Mutant Rocket troops

 

 

==============================

Feel free to PM any additional information.

 

-gben

[Luk3us 63]

I'm sorry but you're right, nothing can save GDI, not even her sizeable rack.

 

Nice list too.

[Saracen 16]

Nice list, this will be worth using!

 

On the other hand:

 

Do think the C&C3 GDI recruitment video would be more effective with a Kari-Wuhrer-esque lean-over??

 

*Enter insulting profanity here and infinite arguments that this is not RA2 etc.*

[Gben 20]

If a mech costs $3000, an engineer costs $500... counterattacks could be an interesting dynamic.

 

I haven't been able to see how much a harvestor load brings in though... so if you consider it takes 3-6 loads just to build an ordinary super-unit...

 

Well I'm guessing this will lead to two strategies... nursing your super-units and a scorched-earth policy as a secondary strategy...

 

So I'm enjoying looking at the unit info. It reaffirms the C&C feel (refinery costs $2000, warfactory relies on power and refinery etc) and veterans can already see potentially new strategies with existing gameplay.

 

-gben

[Mario 0]

what GDI recruitment video

[Saracen 16]

 

You know what? I would direct you to the obvious place where you can find it. But since your intelligence fails to surpass that of a goldfish, I'm not going to bother. And I don't see why anyone else should either! :roll:

[Mario 0]

i'll treat that remark with the contempt it deserves and ignore it

[Alphabear 11]

http://forums.cncnz.com/viewtopic.php?t=7110

[Mario 0]

oh right thanx alpha i havent looked at that thread

[F15pilotX 4]

But since your intelligence fails to surpass that of a goldfish

 

 

Oh, and gben, take a look at this video :

 

http://ftpclubic91.jeuxvideo.fr/temp-clubi...ncais_30738.mov

 

it's french, but you can clearly see the price and function of some NOD buildings :wink:

[Gben 20]

I'm looking for high quality versions of these two 'interview' videos. Apparently ign members/subscrbers can download the big babies - up to 180mb. The files I have are in brackets.

 

- January 12th (320x160, 51mb quicktime)

- August 23rd (320x160, 86MB, quicktime)

 

If you have links to the high quality files, please PM with the details so I can add feed my fetish.

 

-gben

 

(f15pilotx - thanks I had that french one - very useful)

 

I watched it again, and while they were building stuff at the same time, I'd like to say I'm pretty confident that Nod harvesters bring in $700 credit from a single load of green tiberium. Zee you were GDI in that game weren't you - was it the same for GDI?

 

The 2nd new thing I learned is that 2 salvos of gdi missle squads seem to kill a nod scorpian attack. In a seperate attack, that looked like 8 individual rockets.

 

-gben

[Gben 20]

I'm still looking for the high quality IGN videos from previous post if anyone has them. I even posted on the ea forums, but got quickly buried with all the threads.

 

I roamed through the community links from our website to see what everyone else was doing...

 

About half of the sites had nothing. Don't they care???

 

The other half had stuff pretty much the same as Sonic's. Even the same thumbnails for their unit descriptions (BORING!!!!)

http://www.cncworld.org/?page=games/tiberiumwars

http://www.cncden.com/cnc3_gdi_overview.shtml

http://planetcnc.gamespy.com/View.php?view...=94&game=10

 

http://www.cncsaga.com/tiberiumwars/

The French site had seperate sections for upgrades and superpowers which I can guess the interpretation for but sadly can't speak/read French and although our link says the site is in English and German I couldn't find the switch...

 

http://cncwarzone.com/index.php

I really liked this one because it shows C&C3 will be the most balanced game ever, under Nod, GDI, & Scrin unit sections... they're all the same!!! Nod and the Scrin get exactly the same units as GDI. LOL! Obviously in the middle of something!

 

The Game replays site however has the most unique unit descriptions with fairly detailed GDI details. They even had the same idea to include the unit costs from the movies, except they did the earlier ones, and I seem to have done the later ones. So I have updated my unit/structure info to reflect their deep-throat knowldege of the game, which because I can't verify it, has to be taken on blind faith. They have some additional information which I cut out of my hobby, so it's worth a look.

 

http://gamereplays.org/cnc3/task.php?nameid=overview

The Best so far... okay so I'm biased on this one!

 

-gben

[Gben 20]

I was installing my Win95 version of C&C last night... (it still has the receipt from 1998 when I bought it!) and flicked through the manual while waiting for the 5sec it took to install.

 

Verdu has been talking about C&C3 been fast, fluid & fun in every interview and media release since day one. Early indications are the game is fun, the hype is the game is fluid, and now I can confirm it's fast!!!

 

My manual included costs and build times for the various units, and it was interesting reading after going through and physically pulling the same date from the gameplay previews for C&C3 - have a gander...

 

Ripley's believe it or not...

 

In 1995 a MCV cost $5000 and took 333sec to build but in the near future it will be only $2400 and 60sec. Isn't technological advances great!?!

 

In 1995 a Harvestor cost $1400 and took 93sec... today it's only $1200 and 30secs. Drive away, no more to pay!

 

Refinery's and War factory's both cost you $2000 in 1995 - and they still do today, but we've reduced the wait from 133sec down to just half a minute - a bargin!

 

And with the extra time you'll be punching out those $800 medium tanks... not-at-the-53sec-span those old-school fools put up with, no you can have your keeping-up-with-the-jones, latest-doodad predator tank for just 20sec... comes with air-conditioning, in-car dvd player and a 4c discount fuel voucher!

 

Helipads were cutting edge technology for your Orca way back when, with a $1500 investment and a 100sec waiting list... nowaday's you get four spots for just $1000 and only 20sec to boot!

 

The future is a marvellous place.

 

You can get out there,

meet interesting people

and kill them in no time.

 

Full comparison can be seen in this 58kb PDF file

http://dl9.ohshare.com/v/6113806/CNC1_v_CNC3.pdf.html

 

-gben

[Guest Rabbit]

Stickied because he's done a great job with this list.

[Luk3us 63]

ahhaha... Nice Ripley's believe it or not..

 

Even though that show was ****e.

[Gben 20]

I was thinking of the original comic and not the show... believe it or not!

 

 

-gben

[Luk3us 63]

There is a comic? How very heteroclite.

[Gben 20]

There is a comic? How very heteroclite.

 

http://www.comics.com/comics/ripleys/

 

heteroclite... well that's a weird word, wondering what?

 

Definition... Any thing or person deviating from the common rule, or from common forms.

 

And I'm none the wiser.

 

-gben

[Luk3us 63]

Thesauruses are great little things. Especially online.

[TheRoadToDawn 0]

I think you did a nice job with the list. I have done what you said and put in the info i had found. Some of it is information from http://www.commandconquer3.com and I must give them credit:

 

GDI Units

 

Engineer

$500 / 12

Squad Size 1

 

Guardian (APC)

$600 / 15 sec

? unit capacity

 

Mobile Construction Vehicle

$2400 / 60 sec

 

Missile Squad

$300 / 7 sec

Basic Infantry / strong v infantry, air

Squad Size 5

 

Orca Fighter

$900 / 20sec

 

Pitbull

$500 / 12

 

Predator Tank

$800 / 20 sec

 

Rifleman Squad

$160 / 4 sec

Basic infantry, strong v infantry

Squad Size 2 or 5 (has both in text)

 

Sniper

$800 / 20 sec

Squad Size 2 (Sniper & Spotter)

 

New Units to List

 

Surveyor

$500 / 12 sec

Mini-mcv

 

No information currently available:-

Commando

Firehawk

Grenadier Squad

Harvester

Mammoth Tank

Juggernaught

Orca VTOL Transport

Rig (Repair Vehicle)

Zone Trooper

 

 

GDI Structures

 

Armoury

$1500 / 15sec / 12 power

Research facility

 

Barracks

$300 / 10sec / 5 power

Can repair soldiers

 

Crane

$1500 / 10sec / 5 power

 

Defence Turret

$750 / 12sec / 4 power

Anti-infantry

 

Ion Cannon Uplink

$5000 / ? / 20 power

Super Weapon

 

Landing Pad (Air Tower)

$1000 / 20sec / 8 power

Reloads & repairs 4 air units, additional units require additional pads.

 

Power Plant

$750 / 5 sec / Nil

 

Advanced Power Turbines

$100 / 5sec / Nil

• increase power output by 50%

 

Tiberium Refinery

$2000 / 30sec / 4 power

 

Technology Centre

$2000 / 40sec / 12 power

Advanced Research facility

 

Tiberium Silo

$300 / 10sec / 3 power

 

War Factory

$2000 / 30sec / 7 power

• requires power plant and refinery

• doubles as a repair pad

 

Watch Tower

$400 / 10sec / 5 power

 

New Structures

 

Anti-Aircraft Battery

$750 / 15sec / 4 power

 

Golum Cannon

$1000 / 15sec / 4 power

 

Wall Hub

$100 / 5sec / 0 power

(Similar to BFMEII system)

 

No information currently available:-

Command Post

Construction Yard

Dock

Medical Bay

Radar

Transforming Station

 

 

 

Nod Units

 

Attack Bike

$500 / 12sec

Scout vehicle, strong v aircraft

abilities

• scanner array

• detects nearby stealth

 

Flame Tank

$800 / 20sec

 

Harvester

$1200 / 30sec

Resource Vehicle / Weaponless

Abilities

• gather tiberium

• stealthed

• 1 load of green tiberium = $700

 

Militant rifleman

$160 / 4 sec

Basic Mid infantry, strong v infantry

upgrades

• confessor (secret shrine)

• tiberium infusion

 

Militia rocket squad

$320 / 8 sec

 

Raider Buggy

$300 / 8sec

Light vehicle, strong v infantry

Abilities

• EMP burst (tech assembly plant)

Upgrades

• Laser capacitor *tech assembly plant)

 

Saboteur

$500 / 12 sec

abilities

• capture building

• booby trap

• repair bridge

• repair building

 

Scorpian Tank

$600 / 15sec

Light tank Strong v vehicles

Upgrades

• laser capacitor (tech assembly plant)

• dozer blade (tech assembly plant)

 

Emmissary (Nod Mini-mcv)

Unit: $300 / 10 sec/

Deployed: 3 power

*Allows to build other bases

 

No information currently available:-

Avatar Warmech

Beam Cannon (long range artillery)

C-19 Carryall

Commando

Emmissary (Nod Mini-mcv)

Fanatic Squad (terrorists)

Mobile Construction Vehicle

Shadow Squad

Stealth Tank

Venom Patrol Aircraft

Vertigo Bomber

 

 

 

 

Nod Structures

 

 

Crane

$1500 / 45sec / 10 power

Production Structure

• Provides an extra structure production cue

 

Drop Zone (warfactory )

$2000/ 40sec

requires power plant / refinery

• production structure

• deploys nod vehicles

 

Hand of Nod

300 / 10sec / 5

• requires power plant

• trains nod infantry

 

Hangar

$1000/ 20 sec/ 8 power

*requires operational centre

 

Laser Cannon

$1000 / 15 sec / 6 power

Base defense, strong v vehicle

Place hub then three surrounding turrents

• if hub is lost all turrents are destroyed

 

Operations Centre

requires power plant / refinery

• enables radar and provides access to advanced units and structures

• provides support powers

 

Power plant

$400 / 15sec

upgrade

• liquid tiberium core

 

Rocket Bunker

$750 / 12 / 6 power

Base defense, Strong v aircract

Place hub then three surrounding turrents

• if hub is lost all turrents are destroyed

 

Refinery

$2000 / 30sec / 6 power

Resource Structure

• Processes and stores tiberium

 

Shredder Turrent

$600 / 10 / 6 power

Base defense, strong v infantry

Place hub then three surrounding turrents

• if hub is lost all turrents are destroyed

 

Tiberium Silo

$300 / 10sec / 3 power

 

Secret Shrine

$1500 / 15sec / 12 power

Research infantry upgrades

 

Temple of Nod

$5000 / ? / 20 power

SuperWeapon Nuke Missle

 

 

No information currently available:-

Construction Yard (just need an MCV)

Disruption Tower (stealth generator)

Obelisk of Light

Tech Assembly Plant

Tiberium Liquidation

 

 

 

 

 

Alien Units

 

Annihilator Tripod

$3000 / 30sec

Heavy Walker / Strong v Vehicles & Structures

Upgrades

• Force field Generator (Technology Assembler)

Abilities

• Combine with buzzers

Unlocks / Upgrades

• reactor fusion core

 

Corruptor

$1000 / 10sec

Medium Vehicle - Strong v infantry, structures

Available Abilities

• clear garrisoned structures

• combine with buzzers

 

Devourer Tank

$1200 / 12sec

Medium Tank - Strong v Vehicles, Structures

Available Abilities

• conversion beam

• combine with buzzers

 

Gun Walker

$700 / 7sec

Medium Vehicle / Strong v Infantry & Aircraft

Available Abilities

• combine with buzzers

 

Disintegrators

$300 / 3sec

Basic Infantry / strong v vehicles & structures

Available Abilities

• explodes when crushed

 

No information currently available:-

Assimilator (Engineer)

Buzzers (Razor Drones)

Devastator Warship Mastermind

Drone Ship

Floating Gatherer (Harvester)

Mothership

Planetary Assault Carrier

Seeker Tank

Shock Trooper

Storm Rider

 

 

 

 

Alien Structures

 

Reactor (Power)

$600 / 6sec

Tech Structure

 

Nerve Centre (Radar)

$1500 / 15sec / 8 power

Tech Structure

Provides access to advanced units and structures

Provides support powers

• the swarm

• tiberium vibration scan

• lightning spike

• reconstruction drones

 

Photon Canon

$1200 / 12sec / 4 power

Base Defence / Strong v Vehicles

 

Extractor (Refinery)

$2000 / 20 sec / 6 power

 

Portal (Barracks)

$600/ 6sec/ 6 power

*Warps Infantry

 

Technology Assembler (Vehicle Upgrades)

$4000 / 40sec/ 10 power

*gives force field generators.

 

Warp Sphere (War Factory)

$2000/ 20sec/ 6power

*warps vehicles onto battlefield

 

Buzzer Hive

$600 / 6sec/ 7 power

*Infantry Defense

*Infantry are swarmed by bugs?

 

No information currently available:-

Air Portal

Control Centre

Drone Platform

Gateway

Heavy Portal

Plasma Missle Battery (Anti-Air)

Power Generator

Rift Generator (Super Weapon)

Signal Transmitter

Spore Pod

Stasis Chamber (Infantry upgrades)

Storm Column

Tiberium Tower

 

 

 

 

Civilian Tech Structures

 

No information currently available:-

Bunker

Communication Tower

Defensive Tower

EMP Control Centre

Multifunction Tech Upgrade Centre

Mutant Hovel

Reinforcement Pad

Satellite Launch Facility

Subway

Tiberium Silo

Tiberium Spike

 

 

Neutral Units buidable from Mutant Hovel:-

 

Mutant Gun Troops

Mutant Rocket troops

[Gben 20]

Ok well I have updated the first post with the new stats from the Demo mission. Some interesting information there...

 

- Harvesters bring in $2400 per load

- Harvesters pause when you have no more capacity to harvest so that you no longer lose money if you don't have the capacity

- You can max out 99 units in the build cue, and it was great to learn elsewhere that shift+left click on the cue allows 5x of the unit

 

I talked before about fast & fluid gameplay... a full mcv costs $2500 and a harvester brings in $2400, a mammoth tank is the same price. You can see how you can tech up quickly and amass large armies for a 15min game, but it's kinda cheating IMHO.

 

I can see already a 'realism' community patch or a C&C1 balance patch coming in the works already...

 

It's good to see the Ion Cannon is still pretty, but not quite the base killer from the Prologue mission.

 

-gben

[Gben 20]

Updated the GDI Support Powers to first post...

 

-gben

[Gben 20]

updated nod information from demo using 'trick' to start as Nod.

 

-gben

[Gben 20]

Added build cues for GDI & Nod

Sorted by unit costs, build cues, abilities and support powers

 

It was interesting to discover how many units are unlocked by simply building a war factory, or that the first base defence building can be built before a barracks once a power plant is up and running.

 

For instance as soon as you build a war factory you have access to a MCV - which I think is redundant in this game with surveyors/emissaries.

 

Maybe there should be a greater distinction between the two... like a MCV can build other production buildings but a mini-mcv can only build support tab structures?

 

I would have prefered upgrades, research abilities, and unlocks to be more evenly spread around. Although they probably already are in logical places.

 

A harvestor costs you $1000 but brings in $2400 each load. That's really out of whack!!!

 

-gben

[Luk3us 63]

It adds to the fast and fluid gameplay though. So it works.