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[Guest Auronguardian]

Of course, but humankind will triumph!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Right?

[Doctor Destiny 41]

It's true. As Democrats brainwash more and more of society, the world becomes more stupid. It's amazing, isn't it?

No, sorry, blaming people makes the world stupid. If there's no accountability, people gradually become more lax and complacent. It's the people themselves, not some government ideology.

[blodnukl 0]

i dont really care what happens in a couple houndred years...im not going to be around lol

 

 

and without free will robots cant take over the world and any one that gives them free will is stupid

[kraft 0]

I doubt the world will even still exist in 100 years, I think Earth will be destroyed in my lifetime

[Guest Auronguardian]

I doubt the world will even still exist in 100 years, I think Earth will be destroyed in my lifetime

 

Well, thats a another interesting put on it.

 

 

If the robots dont destroy us, we will.

[Luk3us 63]

I doubt the world will even still exist in 100 years, I think Earth will be destroyed in my lifetime

 

When you say earth what you really mean is the the Northern hemisphere, and big chucks of Asia and possibly Aussie.

 

But as for us, yeah we're be fine.

[mormreed 0]

well if the earth doesn't exist in 100 years either Bush hit that big red button,

or robots hit that big red button,

or just the US doesn't exist b/c everyone else hates them so and you know what?

GOOD I agree with anyone that doesn't like the US b/c the US is a bunch of arrogant rich guys who tax poor people so they can have more money for Quote Bush-"Nukyuler" weapons, and the army and stuff, well if the US didn't poke its nose into everyone's buisness it wouldn't need an army, just look at Canada they pwn and they only have mounties!!! GO MOUNTIES, eh!!!

[kraft 0]

Theres also like 2 or 3 that have a 1/100 and 1/1000 chance in hitting earth in the year 2030's

[Guest Auronguardian]

Ill take the easy way.

 

*head 'splodes*

[sith_wampa 6]

well if the US didn't poke its nose into everyone's buisness it wouldn't need an army

 

Are you COMPLETELY RETARDED, or were you just kidding? :roll:

 

The U.S. never stuck its nose into anyones business! Going into Afghanistan was a response to 9/11, and don't tell me you think we should have just sat at home waiting for 9/11 to happen again. And as for Iraq, if we didn't go in there, then Iraq would have gotten nukes from the Russians (just like Iran did) and have completely vaporised Europe. Plus, if the U.S. didn't go into the Middle East, then North Korea would have no reason to be afraid of us, and then they would nuke China, at which point we would have had NO CHOICE but to step in because most domestic products in the U.S. come from China. Then Iraq, North Korea, Iran, AND Russia would be bombing the crap out of China and U.S., and there you have WWIII.

 

But New Zealand would live.

[mormreed 0]

If Bush hadn't been loking for contractors to exploit Iraqi oil maybe none of this would have ever happened and North Korea wouldn't be trying to develop the technology to build nukes (which they will not do for a long time) because the US is preoccupied with Iraq and Iran and North Korea knows they are going to have a long time to do almost whatever they want because Bush wants the oil in Iraq and anywhere else he can get his hands on it Bush shud just pull all of those troops out of Iraq the US has alaready won the war just leave why should they care if Iraq implodes upon itself? US army and marine recruits are dying in Iraq every day for nothing the US will never get what they want in Iraq, the US should get it through its head that the Iraqi militants are never going to stop fighting this isn't going to turn into Romeo and Juliet these people hate each other with a passion and some also hate the US with a passion and want the US out of their homes and the US should get out of Iraq and leave these people alone, they wouldn't be fighting if they didn't want to and the US certainly isn't going to change the militants minds the way they are doing everything and North Korea is just going to go off and try to develop nukes for a while and anyways the odds of them being able to hit the US with a nuke by getting through the US's defense system is extremely slim and I don't doubt that China has a missile defense system also and we don't get all of our labor from China a lot of it comes from India and the surrounding countries too so if you don't want a war next time tell Bush to ask for oil instead of planning an invasion to take it and provoking something like 9/11 (military records show that Bush was planning an invasion into Iraq before 9/11) and what did the US find in its "illegal weapons prgram" search? BIG FAT NOTHING!!!

CNN interview with Paul O'Neil (served on Bush's cabinet for 2 years-

"These are very serious charges. It would mean [bush administration officials] were dead-set on going to war alone since almost the day they took office and deliberately lied to the American people, Congress, and the world," Kerry said. "It would mean that for purely ideological reasons they planned on putting American troops in a shooting gallery, occupying an Arab country almost alone. The White House needs to answer these charges truthfully because they threaten to shatter [its] already damaged credibility as never before."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/01/10/oneill.bush/

[blodnukl 0]

wow i must say this mindless fighting is going nowere...

[Guest Rabbit]

blodnukl is right, and you two know nothing of politics.

 

I'm not going to lock this topic, but cut out the arguing, because it's getting you nowhere, and it's just going to make you both look foolish.

[Guest Auronguardian]

I know, I find that the hardest show to watch on TV was Crossfire, where it was just an hour of people yelling at each other.

[Doctor Destiny 41]

If Bush hadn't been loking for contractors to exploit Iraqi oil maybe none of this would have ever happened and North Korea wouldn't be trying to develop the technology to build nukes (which they will not do for a long time) because the US is preoccupied with Iraq and Iran and North Korea knows they are going to have a long time to do almost whatever they want because Bush wants the oil in Iraq and anywhere else he can get his hands on it Bush shud just pull all of those troops out of Iraq the US has alaready won the war just leave why should they care if Iraq implodes upon itself? US army and marine recruits are dying in Iraq every day for nothing the US will never get what they want in Iraq, the US should get it through its head that the Iraqi militants are never going to stop fighting this isn't going to turn into Romeo and Juliet these people hate each other with a passion and some also hate the US with a passion and want the US out of their homes and the US should get out of Iraq and leave these people alone, they wouldn't be fighting if they didn't want to and the US certainly isn't going to change the militants minds the way they are doing everything and North Korea is just going to go off and try to develop nukes for a while and anyways the odds of them being able to hit the US with a nuke by getting through the US's defense system is extremely slim and I don't doubt that China has a missile defense system also and we don't get all of our labor from China a lot of it comes from India and the surrounding countries too so if you don't want a war next time tell Bush to ask for oil instead of planning an invasion to take it and provoking something like 9/11 (military records show that Bush was planning an invasion into Iraq before 9/11) and what did the US find in its "illegal weapons prgram" search? BIG FAT NOTHING!!!

CNN interview with Paul O'Neil (served on Bush's cabinet for 2 years-

"These are very serious charges. It would mean [bush administration officials] were dead-set on going to war alone since almost the day they took office and deliberately lied to the American people, Congress, and the world," Kerry said. "It would mean that for purely ideological reasons they planned on putting American troops in a shooting gallery, occupying an Arab country almost alone. The White House needs to answer these charges truthfully because they threaten to shatter [its] already damaged credibility as never before."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/01/10/oneill.bush/

You have the gall to post a 3 year old article like its good proof? Are you ****ing serious? Nothing came of this and you're trying to use it as a godsend for your dip**** point of view? Incredible.

 

Anyway... why should we care? Why shouldn't we care is a better question. If we up and leave and Iraq goes into chaos, what the **** was the point of our men dying in the first place? It would make our losses pointless. It would be great for our soldiers to return home shortly but it's just not going to happen. It would be VERY foolish and ignorant of you to think otherwise.

Even if we do leave, they're going to continue waging war. Our presence is only a part of the volatility in that region. They've been at war with each other and the Jewish people for centuries... or even longer. Besides, you said it yourself... it's no "Romeo and Juliet" situation here. Apply that beyond our involvement for a goddamn change and maybe you might get the picture. :roll:

[blodnukl 0]

owned :shot:

[TheBlackOut 6]

I doubt the world will even still exist in 100 years, I think Earth will be destroyed in my lifetime

 

Yea, they thought that all throughout history too.

 

When I say the world is going to end, I say it as it could, but I doubt it will really. Look throughout history...

 

1300's, black death. World ending? Nope.

1800's, they preached the world would end within 50-100 years. Nope.

Now - However dim things might seem. I doubt it will. Because the people calling the shots, no matter how dumb you might think they are, aren't. They know the consequences, the only time I think that the end will actually happen, is if they know the consequences but don't care.

 

Terrorist = They want an Islamic state, not to blow half the world off the map and cause them to die too. Sure they could set a nuke off RIGHT now, but they know they'd be returned by our's just as quick.

 

North Korea = That guy is just an attention hound. He wants attention, then when he gets it, he reallizes he doesn't want as much. Tries to play it off, gets lonely again, and wants some more. The guy maybe weird and crazy, but he god damn well knows if he nuked Japan, he'd be long gone too.

 

China = I honestly can see a war with them approaching. A nuclear one though? No. Even if the Allies (I would take it U.S. and Europe would hopefully form an alliance again) started winning and pushing into China, they wouldn't fire a nuke. Same if we were losing, I doubt we would.

 

Russia = They might try to scare us, and we do the same to them. Its a Cold War, thats it. Nothing will happen.

 

Iran = That nut job damn well knows what he's doing. But he won't nuke. Again, I swear he knows the consequences and cares about them. I just think he wants us to sanction him and crap, to play off the "Americans are horrible" type thing.

 

Israel = They'd only use them if that had to.

[blodnukl 0]

islamic is misunderstood though terrorists are extreamists and have no realativity to the acual religion

[Doctor Destiny 41]

Don't be so quick to say that. If you look very closely, Islam is NOT a religion of peace. It was founded by a warrior for one thing and it promotes the killing of infidels. I would agree, that terrorists are extreme in the beliefs but it's not much of a stretch given the foundation of Islam.

 

I do realize that Muslims are not violent as a whole. I am in no way saying otherwise. I'm just pointing out that Islam isn't as peaceful as everyone percieves it to be.

[blodnukl 0]

islam is no more peaceful then jews or christians...we all have need of some way to emerge... david demolished two or three cities christians and the crusades... like a jihad it is not some symbol of war but a inner quest...and it also says that it is against there religon to attack without being attacked first or if there religoin is threatend therefore they may not be peacful but compared to other religions they are no different if not better(im not a muslim just pionting out the facts so im not like set in stone and am only saying this b/c its what i believe)

[Doctor Destiny 41]

When was the last time any Jews or Christians slaughtered innocent people for their beliefs? :roll: Islam is fundamentally more violent and it shows... and continues to this day. Thus creating a HUGE gap among religions... which creates even more tension, which will have to be released at some point. When this happens, you have large-scale terror attacks like 9/11 and 7/7.

[blodnukl 0]

yes...but you cant judge 100 by the acts of five and the crusades is by far the biggest example even though it may have been a while ago it is still history...there is not much more about it as i said all of the religion have there bad times just becouse one person had convinced others to believe that what they think is there religion when in reality what these "5" people continue to grow and taint the true beliefs

[TheBlackOut 6]

Yup, Christains and Jews have realized the mistakes in their past and have now since stopped. But from the beginning Muslims have been pretty violent and are now today. Its not a good trend.

 

And besides, the "middle" guy Muslim isn't standing against the terrorists. If this continues, its a matter of time before they ALL become violent.

[Doctor Destiny 41]

The Crusades is the largest scale, no question but it's a part of history and has not repeated itself for quite some time. My point is that Islamic fundamentalists are continuing to cause major problems to this very day. It's not a question of history, it's a question of current times and trends.

[blodnukl 0]

yes but i still believe that the reason that people believe muslims to be violent is the reagon that there in and the wars that the region beleives in. if a man goes into war and says a prayer to his god and the other guy overhears him he will most likly think that it is now a "holywar"