This Is A Warning!

[Saracen 16]

Women. Can't live with them, can't live without them. They can be the most beautiful species on earth. But all us men know, they're not the same species as us.

 

They can break our hearts, and we can break theirs.... such is love, and the pursuit of happiness.

 

However, they can also tear us apart.... As One man found found back in 2005.

 

Old it may be, but it's doing the rounds after being buried for so long.

[Mina Synd 0]

cleverly worded post to avoid any outright offense there saracen >.> but you know -why- that made it into a news story yes? because violent females are so rare. yes, they are becoming more common in today's youth... but overall females commiting violent crime is FAR lower... something like 10% of the total violent crime... whereas other crimes, say theft and shoplifting, the numbers are completely reversed. there are many possible reasons for this; i prefer to take in the practical scientific explaination. testosterone makes males more violent then females naturally... females usually only murder when they've felt they've had no choice... in self-defence or because they have been abused or threatened... very very rarely they attack for other reasons... either because of a mental disorder or for crimes of passion...

 

men on the other hand are much more violent... let's face it, some levels are violence in male bonding rituals. everything from sports to drinking in bars and fighting, to initiating a new guy into a gang. it ranges across the whole board there...

 

women normally commit money related crimes because they feel like they have to. either they don't have the money at the time, or they simply can't afford to get something. and we all know the female stereotype of shopping (which sadly, is pretty much true xD) and as with every crime, once you do it and get away with it, you realise you could do it again. you end up enjoying it and get hooked...

 

don't get me wrong, i'm not just having a rant at anyone or anything, but there is reasoning behind it. check out the stats for prisons and look at the percentages of who was in for what then compare things... though i fear with today's youth they will grow up and spread crime equally amongst everyone... what with the money issues more people are being forced into theft, and with the morals falling and gang culture rising, females are becoming just as violent as males...

 

but yah, the real reason this story made it into the news was because it was entertaining and it was a female doing the damage. it's one of those rare things, therefore it has to be highlighted

 

also in a random bit of info i've discovered in my recent years of internet chatting... the roles have reversed quite a bit now... women are a lot more dominent and will take what they choose (not that they didn't do that before...) generally picking and mixing to get what they want whereas men have generally backed down a lot and pretty much accept any attention from women like a puppy.

 

these rules have always been true to some extent... but usually it was behind closed doors - in public before all the civil liberties and sexual harrassment stuff the men would quite happily flirt with the women and such and they were expected to take it. nowadays if a woman winks at a man in the office they hide XD

 

quickly men! x3; the women are making you redundant. all they need to do is perfect ways to create babies without men and you're doomed as a species xD and if i remember right, it's pretty darn close to. now test tube babies can be made... and if i remember right, the DNA can be extracted from eggs and placed directly into another egg with synthetically created genes which made the egg think it's been fertilized. once this research becomes common place... men will fade away D: especially with all the tools to make life easier; all the various items to aid in tasks which require physical strength... sex toys which can perfectly simulate a man...

 

y'all really -really- need to do something before your whole existance is resorted to a tiny number of personal slaves, used for the pleasure of a mistress who keeps you locked in a cage all day and occassionally takes you out in public on a leash to compare with their BFF's pet slave xD

 

...the sad thing is it might actually happen too because not that many men would object to being kept as a bedroom slave o.O;; *pet-pets* don't worry. i shall aid you! what use i shall be is unknown, probably pointless but i will back you up! XD

[sith_wampa 6]

You have no sympathy, which is more than I would expect from a woman anyway.

[Mina Synd 0]

i have sympathy D: no doubt he did something to deserve it. that and she must have had some kind of mental illness... that's what you get for hooking up with a bunny boiler >>;

 

... by the way sith...

 

That's your's!

 

do you really want saracen to be saying that to you in ten minutes? >.> XDDDDD

[Duke 0]

I find it surprising that the guy allowed his name to go public *just like that*.

[Mina Synd 0]

yah... maybe it's as a kind of way to back up his story? so if he tells someone in a bar "oh, she ripped my testicle off..." then he can actually show the newspaper story >>;

[Luk3us 63]

This motivational picture seems appropriate here then.

 

 

 

 

But yes, that is a very, "unique" story indeed.

[Nmenth 291]

i prefer to take in the practical scientific explaination. testosterone makes males more violent then females naturally... females usually only murder when they've felt they've had no choice... in self-defence or because they have been abused or threatened... very very rarely they attack for other reasons... either because of a mental disorder or for crimes of passion...

 

men on the other hand are much more violent... let's face it, some levels are violence in male bonding rituals. everything from sports to drinking in bars and fighting, to initiating a new guy into a gang. it ranges across the whole board there...

Or maybe it's because men are naturally stronger...

 

quickly men! x3; the women are making you redundant. all they need to do is perfect ways to create babies without men and you're doomed as a species xD and if i remember right, it's pretty darn close to. now test tube babies can be made... and if i remember right, the DNA can be extracted from eggs and placed directly into another egg with synthetically created genes which made the egg think it's been fertilized. once this research becomes common place... men will fade away D: especially with all the tools to make life easier; all the various items to aid in tasks which require physical strength... sex toys which can perfectly simulate a man...

Not possible. I've done a bit of research on genetics, some animals can survive in a male-less world through genetics, humans can't. The problem is that the human embryo will not start developing certain parts without the presence of a father's genetics. The cells, although all become present, require an 'activation' from a male sperm cell before they will grow. Basically an egg-egg cross embryo can appear fertilized, but will inevitably die before it can grow.

[sith_wampa 6]

Now I'm not sure about this, but I heard that sperm (or the crucial genetic material) can be extracted from female bone marrow and that can be used to keep humans going.

[Nmenth 291]

Never heard that one, I'm guessing it isn't true since it never came up in my research (the possibility of two women having children was actually the focus of my research).

From my knowledge of genetics, it is my opinion that it is not, nor ever will be, possible. Not in 20 years, not in 200 years, not in 2000 years.

Show me a baby born of two women and I'll take back my standing.

 

[sith_wampa 6]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/art...rrow-sperm.html

 

This is it. It hasn't happened yet, but it will at some point.

[Nmenth 291]

I read it. Interesting, but I have extreme doubts about it. I still hold to my former opinion, it is not possible. I believe these experiments will fail in the end. They also point out genetic abnormalities in that article, that is a very important aspect to remember when dealing with genetics. Scientists are probing something they don't truly comprehend, reminds me of Kane accusing GDI of being like children playing with the Tacitus in KW.

[sith_wampa 6]

lol except sperm and stem cells are not alien.

[Nmenth 291]

lol except sperm and stem cells are not alien.

Not literally from outer space, but pretty much as far as science is concerned. Everything is alien until we have perfected our knowledge of it.

[sith_wampa 6]

What I meant was these cells resemble something that's been previously discovered or studied. Its not some random stuff like the Andromeda Strain.

 

But I suppose you are correct.

[Nmenth 291]

Ah, I thought you were referencing the Tacitus.

[sith_wampa 6]

Well I was. The only human who knew anything about it was Kane. All the other humans (GDI) had no clue what was going on. They stoke background information form Nod and Tratos.

[Mina Synd 0]

well if we're at that stage already chances are it's more then possible. i mean if we've already managed to clone things after saying it couldn't be done... it's all just a matter of time and effort. okie, so the world will probably never be only females like i jokingly said, but i think it will be possible to have children produced from females only. i mean it's the next logical step... lesbian couples would be overjoyed at the prospect.

 

likewise with gay couples if they heard similar news. though i fear trying to make a baby from two men would be FAR more complex, if even remotely possible. chances are there would have to be a synthetic egg (not to mention the whole baby being raised for 9 months in either a serrogate mother or some kind of laboratory condition...) but two females? that is definately possible. all you need is the gene to simulate the sperm joining with it, and supply the 23 genes from the other partner... then everything else is set. but it's definately in it's infancy of testing. give it 5, 10 or 20 years and it will be possible. give it 50 years and it will be a perfected art used by everyone commonly o.o;

[Nmenth 291]

You should have read that article, Mina. According to them, male-male fertilization is closer to discovery than female-female. A surrogate would of course required to carry it.

Regardless, I don't think either method will ever be possible.

[Duke 0]

I don't know why they even try. Maybe i'm going to sound really bad here but a definitive majority of people would agree that to make a baby it takes: A Man and a Woman. Anything else just doesn't seem right. Can anyone here honestly say that they would like to see Two Females be physically able to have children by themselves?

[Mina Synd 0]

yah a definitive majority of people here also happen to be white males. one thing you have to take into account: it's not your choice. what power should you have over deciding who gets to have children and who doesn't? and what would make you any different from any dictator and/or mass murderer? it's no different to proposition 8. now i know all you good 'ol boys out there are gonna say that's good. but how would you like it if after many many centuries of work to get equal rights, all of a sudden a governmental decision suddenly took a large amount of those rights away from you?

 

how would you like it if it were the other way round and hetrosexual marriage was banned but other marriage types were allowed? the government said it WASN'T a religious issue, but all the people who voted for it were mainly heavily christian types who were greatly against homosexuals. (and just as a reference point - there were gays in the bible, and they were not looked down upon. ontop of that, there is nothing saying it's bad. it has just been misinterpretted)

 

the government has NO RIGHT to make or remove civil liberties. in a dictatorship, whatever. but in a modern "advanced" and "free" society, what right do they have to change civil liberties for the worse? how can america be "the land of the free" if almost all the states in the country BAN GAY MARRIAGE but allow hetrosexual marriage? it's not like they are asking for BETTER rights then everyone else. they want EQUAL rights. how does it affect you? it does NOTHING to you. all it would do would make some people who happen to have a different sexuality, very happy and able to say to the world "this person is truely mine, i love them, and i can prove it!"

 

so don't even go down that route duke. don't even pull that crap >:\

[Alphabear 11]

This has nothing to do with gay marriage. I honestly dont care if gay people want to get married. Having a child artificially created from 2 male or 2 female gametes has to be questioned though.

[Duke 0]

...there were gays in the bible, and they were not looked down upon. ontop of that, there is nothing saying it's bad. it has just been misinterpretted)...

 

Ever tried reading the bible? Quote chapter and verse and I may reconsider

 

...But let's not even go down that path.

 

This has nothing to do with gay marriage. I honestly dont care if gay people want to get married. Having a child artificially created from 2 male or 2 female gametes has to be questioned though.

 

This, is my point exactly!

[Mina Synd 0]

why? in all honesty what is the big issue there? because it's artificial? got news for you, there are already testtube babies out there. there is really no difference between them besides the fact it's two of one gender making a baby. i can't see any downsides behind it. any evil intent behind two people of the same gender having a baby could be applied to people of opposite gender. i mean it's not like rape is it? it's not like some guy is gonna run up to you in the street, give you some of his sperm and force you to pay however many thousands to make him a baby.

 

the only people who are going to use this tactic are people who desperately want a baby. personally i think it's far kinder then the alternative. the alternative? basically one of the partners going out and getting "parts" from an outside person of the opposite gender (either in sperm donation or as a surrogate mother) and if they don't have the money to pay for it, the low tech option of actually doing it with someone of the opposite gender.

 

which for most homosexuals would be uncomfortable at best, and outright traumatising at worst. not to mention the fact that the DNA would only be from ONE of the partners... whatever happens in this situation, someone is going to be hurt and know deep down that they are in no way related to the child.

 

with these new scientific methods, it can make dreams come true for many homosexual couples out there. something that at this stage, many cannot even imagine would be possible. do you really want to take a gift this powerful away from someone who can otherwise not experience the same thing as you and your girlfriend?

 

now if it were cloning i could understand. cloning has some every powerful repercussions and could result in bad things (cloning current dictators to give them an endless supply of duplicates incase of assassination... then there is always the possibility of a large army wearing fancy plastic uniforms. but that would never happen...)

 

but there are not really any downsides to same-sex birthing... only ethical complaints because of religion and such. so long as they perfect the science before putting it out for the public (or at least work out everything they possibly can. no doubt there will always be a problem, but as long as they sort it out as quickly as possible with as few deaths as possible...)

 

i mean really the only big issue with it is that until the science is near-perfected there will be accidents and such... maybe new diseases or illnesses caused by the procedure which the scientists didn't spot. in a worst case scenario it could be a problem that develops later in life and hundreds or thousands of people get children before it's discovered. but whatever the cost, in the long run it would be worth it. it's another method of creation and it would make a large percentage of the world's population happy.

 

let's look about it from that method - say somewhere along the lines the world ends up with a "children of men" scenario, where women can't get pregnant. we would NEED same-sex and lab babies to continue the species (and hopefully produce women that can birth...)

 

i'm sure there must be another downside to it, but i can't think of it. i'd happily like to hear your opinions why you feel it's a bad idea...

[sith_wampa 6]

I don't mind it, love is love, but it just looks weird.

Edited December 3, 2008 by sith_wampa