RA3 Storyline

[Luk3us 63]

I reckon if they make RA3 and if they are smart they're link it up with the Tiberian universe and show just how Nod rose to power. And that will therein conclude the RA series. And when TT is released that too will conclude the Tiberian series. There in ending C&C. Generals DOES NOT COUNT!

 

You ask why they would link it up? Because there are just TOO MANY conincidences that link the two univereses up.

 

And I don't care about what the stupid WW people said about the two not being related. Heard of lying? Look it up.

 

Your thoughts.?? My thoughts cost $2.95 a minute.... :roll: :roll:

[chillin 0]

I agree

 

only at the beginning there was a link too. when you install RA, you get a speach from kane saying

'he who commands the future conquers the past

he who conquers the past commands the future'

 

or something along those lines

anyway maybe in TT we go back to the end of RA3 and we (depending on the side) kill/save the young Kane and take him to the future and game on!

 

but something tells me thats a load of crap, but its some good crap eh? :wink:

[Wildshield 0]

Two different time lines... two different stories.

 

As for RA3 I would like to see "Time" changed again. Somebody or Faction alters history yet again producing a different today. What if the soviets won the first war? Or Japan was the great superpower? Be even funny if Canada was the powerhouse. So many things can happen when you add the subject of timetravel.

[Guest rasputin]

I agree with luk3us and stinger, Red Alert and c&c are one in the same. At the end of the Soviet campaign in the original Red Alert, after Kane kills Nadia you have Kane saying, "commander i am the future". Or something along those lines. Also in the original RA midway through the allied campaign there was some news reporter saying that America entered the war, and something about legislation being passed to establish a Global Defence Inniative. Coincidence... I think not.

 

Anyway i would like to see Kane rise from the ashes of defeat with his Soviet comrades and stirke back at the allies, creating the brotherhood of nod in the process. But, this time i want the Kane and the "bad guys" win. We all know that the Allies won the first RA, and the second. As well as the original C&C and Tiberum Sun... not to mention the C&C Generals. The jury is still out on Zero Hour, but im thinking that the allies will pull through again... how freaking boring. Anyone else seeing a pattern here? We need the "bad guys" to win for once. Thus making people want to go out and buy the sequel to RA3. Where its inevitable that the "good guys" will win. Then the allies can establish the GDI thus pushing the NOD underground until the storyline from C&C can come in.

 

This is kind of off the topic, but am i the only one here that thinks that we need more cut screens between missions? I mean the original C&C and Red Alert was chalked full of them, with a decent and somewhat believable storyline. I know Tiberum Sun had them and so did RA 2 but those were lame. I want an epic stuggle between good and bad guys again. Anyway I've been ranting for awhile due to a loss of sleep... tell me what you guys think.

[Luk3us 63]

YEah cutsences are cool. Problem is they can sometimes have really bad actors and that just makes them bad. But if they can get some good ones in that would be cool.

[aesir05 0]

The actors in all the C&C games have been good, with the weakest acting being done in RA-1.

 

As for the storylines...

Here's the real thing:

 

After Tiberian Dawn, Red Alert was created, the game was supposed to be the past as Tiberian Dawn was the future....

 

During RA-1 we were told about how GDI was created, however more things were rather left out for sequels of RA-1.

 

After that the cool people are Westwood decided to seperate the two games totally.

When Tiberian Sun came out and later RA-2 they were both in a universe of their own.

 

One being the future where tiberian exists and a struggle continues between the GDI and the NOD.

 

The other is more of in the Past/Present day of our real world, except that its an alternate reality of our world...

 

This is mostly from my knowledge from following everything that is C&C back since the orignal game came out, interviews/chat sessions and what not I've been almost everywhere and this is what the programmers wanted it to be like(atleast what they said it would be like).

 

Also if memory serves, Westwood planned to end the Tiberian universe by following up with 2-3 sequels.

 

Don't know if that will ever happen though.

 

As for future Tiberian games, they'll probably include some more stuff and Red Alert should most definately carry on the altered history/war going on scenarios.

 

Lets see what turn EA takes now that Westwood is no longer in the picture, maybe C&C will become another name that EA destroys by making horrible games like G$%#$@|$ that DO NOT FIT IN THE C&C universe at ALL!!!!

 

Have a nice day

[Luk3us 63]

Also if memory serves, Westwood planned to end the Tiberian universe by following up with 2-3 sequels.

 

So like where did this memory come from? :roll:

[aesir05 0]

So like where did this memory come from? :roll:

 

I can't remember exactly but try to search the net for Interviews with the devs during the time tiberian sun went gold.

 

just search for tiberian sun gone gold and you should get an archived interview.

[Guest Tirisfal Guardian]

They've already messed up the storyline between the Tiberian and Red Alert universes with RA2. Kane came to power after the collapse of the soviet union in RA1. I'm pretty sure it said that in either the tiberiun sun manual or somewhere in Tsun or RA. Putting Romanov in and not having the Soviet Union collapse messes up their timeline. Besides Tiberian Dawn was supposedly a few years into the future yet so is RA2. It seems that RA2 is the odd game out. The other problem you run into linking up the Tiberian and RA storylines is that Kane would have to be a central part... yet from what I can tell Joe Kucan is not working for EA. I really can't see them finding another Kane that was as good as Joe. I think it would be a lot easier for EA to have Kane not appear in RA3 and have cabal and a computer generated Kane appear in TT with the actual Kane appearences being on the low side. Of course they could always ask Joe to come back. Besides I don't know if I want them to attempt another RA or C&C. After the horrible job they did on the storyline in generals and the overall uniqueness of the gameplay I'd rather have the story end with a good memory rather than it ending with a horrible game that I would never play again.... here's looking at you Generals.

[fox34343 1]

i know what you mean generals has a **** storyline compared to the other c&C games.

[aesir05 0]

EA just wanted to cash in on the C&C name with generals.

 

I hope that someone from CNCNZ goes to EA and tells them NOT TO F*$K UP C&C BY RELEASING S#|T GAMES LIKE GENERALS!!

 

Stay true to C&C!

 

They went after the new standard defined by Blizzard and the leaders gave up on their own system.

 

Hope they release TT and have Westwood people work on it as they see fit.

[Luk3us 63]

They better bloody attempt TT or else I'll... I'lll... umm..... err.... MOAN. Yeah thats what I'll do I'll moan and bitch all over these forums till someone bans me. Or till I lose it and walk off a cliff.

 

I think we need to nomiate an ambasaddor to EA. Why you ask? Well i don't know. I don't even have a proper reply. So i'll just talk about nothing and be ignored by the next poster.

 

:roll: :arrow:

[Guest Cncruler]

I think that they got to far ahead of them selfs. the started work on ZH before they were done with generals.

[Guest Ditto00]

The C&C Tiberian Dawn and RA1 ARE linked. Notice that at the end of the soviet campaign, Nadia says "Comrade, this is Kane. He wishes you to keep the peace intact until he creates the Brotherhood of Nod, which will take place around... the 1990's." Then kane kills her. In C&C Tiberian Dawn, the maual says, "It is the late 1990's and for years the Global Defense Initiative and the Brotherhood of NOD have been at odds." Or something like that. But, like it was said, the two stories split apart... in C&C:TS and C&C:RA2.

[Sonic 295]

Red Alert 2 has nothing to do with the original storyline. If anything it screwed it up confusing the hell out most fans. Only Red Alert, C&C and Tiberian Sun make up the storyline. Renegade can be thrown into the mix as well if you like since its set in the original C&C's timeline.

[Luk3us 63]

Gees guys you know you should be bringin up old topic like this....

 

That had to be said.

 

And since we're on the subject. :?

 

Lets get things completly clear. 8)

 

RA2 and Generals are NOT apart of the C&C storyline. End.

[Guest volkov2000]

i liked the idea of ra1 armageddon, that the scrin sent an immortal human (kane) to earth to try to take over, first by instigating the soviet invasion of europe, once that failed, they ordered kane to begin forming a proper NOD army and to assist him the scrin launched the first tiberium meteorite to make earth like their home planet, which sets off tiberian dawn( why isn't it called tiberIUM dawn and TiberIUM sun ), that makes a lot of sense, and luk3us why do u think ra2 isn't a real command and conquer it has all the traits of a sequel to ra1, it even mentions it, its just generals thats not a true c&c ( it dosen't even use the original banner ), it holds no place in either of the original storylines.

[Guest rchandra]

I’m confused with the topic.

There is another topic named C&C World War 3.

Is there any relation between them ?

I see in the World War 3 topic, there is a person named Bigpoppabear who says a lot about C&C World War 3.

I think that it may be the future RA series after RA2, and his story is very interesting.

I’m not really sure what should RA3 be, I just want that it is also connected with the previous C&C series.

 

I think that RA2 isn’t connected with RA storyline, it is quite strange.

Where does Yuri come from ? And about the mind control, I think that is the most ridiculous ability in C&C series.

It’s a little bit nonsense.

[chickendippers 1]

No, RA2 and YR don't fit in with the storyline anywhere really (although WW attempted to fit it in) it's really just a bit of fun.

[Gazdude 0]

The RA3 story line i think is gonna be very different from them both (RA2 RA1) and could be linked to C&C tib dawn at the end, because if i remember rightly on one of the RA missions kane walks in and talks to stalin! (unless joe kucan was playing a different role in RA1) and in the install of ra1 y did they have a pic of kane saying somthing?

 

I think that maybe at the end of ra3 they will show the rise of the brotherhood and kane and GDI will be formed.

 

^^dreaming~~**

[chickendippers 1]

It's possible if they make a propper sequar to Red Alert that something like that would be involved in the story.

[Gazdude 0]

But what do you think will come out first TT (if it does come out) or RA3?

 

i havn't heard much about either, do you think EA are bothered about the original C&C's??

[chickendippers 1]

Well there's absolutely nothing to suggest that RA3 has really crossed anyone's mind.

[Gazdude 0]

To tell you the truth i dont think there will be another redalert, and if there is it will be called C&C generals Cold War Edition or sumthing like that.....

[BoMbFuNk.Mc 0]

some factor's you guys missed, you got the story line right, hell im impressed some of it i didnt even know.

 

when you enter tiberian dawn, it's acually not telling you what happened before dawn.

 

obviously a meteorite crashed into earth, spreading its tiberian ores, god knows how they proccessed it into money.. anyways tiberium was the item that you have not looked at, tiberian was why there is tiberian sun, dawn, firestorm. maybe they have already time traveled?

 

i see it as, with RA and RA2 and all its lil extra games, is the real universe-our command and conquer universe. showing us, 'ore' instead of tiberian which then goes into the story line based on 'time travel' mainly, thats why it's there...

 

tiberian is an experience of an alternate universe where a meteorite mainly made up of tiberian crashed into the earth. changing life as we know it. making tiberian dawn, then sun, and then firestorm. it's basically an everworld comic of superman in 'red sun' dunno if you lot read it (it has nothing to do with what im saying, just an example)

 

thats my thoughts, i aint really thought about time either, RA was like world war 1 and 2, RA2 was like an after war, the acually cold war if you will. then tiberian dawn is around the 1980-90's and then sun and firestorm is obviusly the future.