Command & Conquer III?

[Gazdude 0]

I dont hate EA, i hate what EA did to Westwood...

 

EA made loads of quality games like FIFA, SSX, Desert Strike (one of their very early ones) and knockout Kings....

 

These are just a few of the high quality games EA have made....

[Saracen 16]

I think we should rally behind petroglyph... not against EA though! I would prefer if we just get over what EA has done and show the ex-westwood guys who were fired that we support them all the way to making an RTS we can be proud of.

 

And I'm sure if they do get a game off the ground then I wonder if Sonic would be prepared to do a Petroglyph web-site hosted by CNCNZ.com where we can follow their games, and maybe eventually turn it into a site about the main game they develop....

 

Because the site would be only C&C related to the staff and not the game, the site may not be allowed. That as well as the fact that if it does come to rival C&C or any EA RTS game for that matter....

 

But if EA does disband C&C and kill the franchise, I can see CNCNZ.com possibly being converted into a petroglyph supporting site... or if EA kill the C&C name but keep the game, it could be converted to following that....

 

Or if both Petroglyph and EA release similar RTS games based on the C&C mould "IF" the C&C name is killed off.... would CNCNZ.com be split down the middle or force an allegence to one of gaming developers.... who knows???

 

The future is uncertain and it kills me to think of that... but CNCNZ.com will have to evolve in some way or another if the C&C franchise is killed off.... Question is how would we go about it????

[Gazdude 0]

Adapt and survive, let nature take its course and us all adapt to the new Westwood evolution...

 

Petroglyph

 

If their first game lives up to the hype, we could all make a fresh start and leave the old stale C&C behind...

[Bliss 0]

hmm Petroglyph-NZ they have a fan base already lol.

 

Anyway from what i read at EALA .Weswood EApaciffic and E.A all formed togeth to form EALA that means they didnt buy weswood but whoeva was in charge could still sack off all the unwanted staff like the Tea boy

[Tree 0]

If their first game lives up to the hype, we could all make a fresh start and leave the old stale C&C behind...

And if the first game doesn't live up to the hype?

[Gazdude 0]

We're all stuck playing mods all our lives....

[Commander A9 0]

yeah, but i think petroglyph will have alot to live up to. i think peopel will expect them to be as good as westwood once was.

 

the way we kill EA is to not buy their stuff. but, it seems to be so hard to do so. EA doesnt seem to care for its fan base. i saw a poem in a restaurant that had a line in it saying, "THe customer is not a cash cow, he is your job, he is your livlihood, he is the one who pays your salary." I wish EA would get that through its head.

[Shocker 0]

ever since they killed westwood

Westwood's sales killed Westwood.

 

If EA made good games, I will still play them, but I don't care about EA, I hate them.

This is the kind of logic that always baffles me. EA owned Westwood for how long, and you always bought the games. The people who worked on Generals and this new game are majority ex-Westwood employees, but now that they're "EA" you don't like them. The actual game designers never really have much control over the business aspects of things. If you hated EA so much before, you shouldn't have supported them by supporting Westwood. If you really did enjoy Westwood games though, it doesn't logically follow to dislike the new series or "boycott" EA because they closed Westwood. Westwood wasn't profitable the way they wanted. EA is a business, albeit a giant, evil business.

Your statements match my feelings exactly. Good call, mate

[Saracen 16]

Anyway from what i read at EALA .Weswood EApaciffic and E.A all formed togeth to form EALA that means they didnt buy weswood but whoeva was in charge could still sack off all the unwanted staff like the Tea boy

 

What do you mean? The Westwood tea boy was the only bastard who tried to save westwood, and he was on work experience :lol:

[Commander A9 0]

we do not take a stand against ex-Westwood employees, we revolt against EA in general, especially those who made the decision to buy out Westwood. We stop plaing our Battlefield games as an open protest, but play Generals and Zero Hour because those two games were originally thought up by Westwood LONG before they were backstabbed.

[Sonic 296]

For the record, EA didn't buy out Westwood. EA purchased Westwood from Virgin Interactive. At the start of 2002 Westwood Pacific split from Westwood Studios and became EA Pacific. Then as we know Westwood Studios, EA Pacific were consolidated (closed down) and merged to form the new EALA Studios.

 

To quote from Planet CNC's Encyclopedia:

In 1998, Electronic Arts caught sight of Westwood Studios. Westwood was purchased, giving them access to a worldwide distrubution network for their next few titles.

 

Westwood's first project under Electronic Arts was Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun, a continuation of the story from the first C&C game. It was released in 1999 to meet mixed feelings from fans. Some thought there was nothing new in the game, so it wasn't that great, but others maintained that it was still the best RTS on the market. An expansion pack for Tiberian Sun, Firestorm was released early in 2000.

 

At nearly the same time, Westwood released Nox, a game similar to Blizzard's Diablo II but with a different mode of multiplayer and different game mechanics. Later that year, Westwood released Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2, which did not follow the previous Command & Conquer storyline but was still a fairly good game. Nearly a year later, Westwood released Red Alert 2's expansion pack, Yuri's Revenge.

 

Early in 2002 Westwood released Command & Conquer: Renegade, the only C&C game that is not a Real Time Strategy game, but a First Person Shooter. The player is a commando named Havoc, living in the world of the original Command & Conquer. While Renegade is still popular in some places, it was not as good of a game as it was anticipated to be.

 

In 2003, EA Westwood and EA Pacific were merged with EALA, and the Westwood name was no longer used. However, EALA quickly published Command & Conquer: Generals, and seven months later they released an expansion pack called Zero Hour which, arguably, was a vast improvement over Generals.

 

EALA's current project is Lord of the Rings: Battle for Middle Earth, which uses the Generals game engine to reproduce the epic battles in Tolkein's mythology on the side of both good and evil.

[Tree 0]

so you're saying that some idiot took a picture of LOTR and put Command and Conquer III at the bottom?

[chickendippers 1]

@ Tree: No

@ Commander: How is stopping playing a game you've already payed EA for gonna affect anyone in any way?

 

EA do suck in their support of communities though. We used to have Delphi who was basically dedicated to one game so we had it good, but EA has since fired all their community managers (eg. Col Burton) and replaced them for all their games with EAComMike who obviously can't provide any kind of service to any of the games. Also, Mike's in EA;s HQ in Redwood, and C&C is developed in LA - how's he supposed to talk with the dev team exactly?

[Commander A9 0]

god, would you just let me hate EA, please!? i at the time, i believed i was paying westwood for it, but then i realized EA took em down, and i was pissed off.

[Sonic 296]

EA do suck in their support of communities though.

I will agree with that. EA have produced some fine products, its the after sales support that is crap. Generals and Zero Hour still need patches but they will never come. Its basically the same thing for all their games. The EA Sports series alway need patching to fix things but since EA won't do it the fans fix the game themselves.

 

I bet when they release the LOTR game it will get a few patches to balance bugs and so on then they will move on to the next money make.....just like they did with Generals and Zero Hour.

 

EA is home of C&C and there is nothing we can do about. If want to go one pissing and moaning about EA thats fine, just stop posting about it here ok.

[Commander A9 0]

im thinking EA's policy with Generals and Zero Hour is out with the old, in with the new., Generals and ZH now being the old. They are now old and forgotten, according to Frank Klepacki's comments about Ea's lack of service for fans.

[chickendippers 1]

I think they may give LOTR a bit more attention than C&C, the chances of attracting a bigger audience from such a huge title should entice them to do something alien to them and spend money on it after-development.

 

It's like Earth and Beyond. After Westwood was consolidated, EA didn't give the E&B team the funds to implement the 2 years of story and features that they had planned, so it just sorta started rotting.

 

I don't think Generals/Zero Hour will get any community support, so when EA shut GOL off that'll be it for playing Generals online.

[Gazdude 0]

I look forward to that

[Saracen 16]

EA do suck in their support of communities though.

I bet when they release the LOTR game it will get a few patches to balance bugs and so on then they will move on to the next money make.....just like they did with Generals and Zero Hour.

 

If that was any other games development company, the revenue and profits, would probably slide due to the fact that the basic development is crap!

 

I hope EA begin to mess up big time in their development, and a seemingly good quality titles come out with more bugs and crashes then you can shake a stick at... and get complaints from the customers.. it would certainly make them wake up to the fact that their after development service has got to improve..

 

Then again, it probably wont.... they'll most likely shake their shoulders, say "oh well" and carry on just like Sonic said. It is to be honest a real unprofessional way of doing business and shouldn't be allowed. But EA will be EA and we can't change the way they are. Mind you they are the microsoft of the games world in terms of market domination for shelf space, and the amount of money they have...

 

Perhaps EA should have an enquiry into the amount of takeovers they do and how they direct their business towards the public just like microsoft.... maybe it will allow smaller companies like the once beloved Westwood to stand a chance of not being forced by a hostile take over...

[Commander A9 0]

I look forward to that

 

so do I, but then again, I always loved the Firestorm World Domination Tour server. Such untold battles of glory and honor, victory and defeat, triumph and tragedy, and personally, kicking ass all the way across a continent! i loved doing that!

[Gazdude 0]

They sucked.....

 

TS has always been my favorite, not FS

[Sonic 296]

I thought Firestorm was ok, some the new units were good. I always liked the Juggernaut 8)