Another sad day in America

[PurpleGaga27 40]

Two main explosions terrorized the Boston Marathon: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22160691

Strange thing is that it is held on a Monday due to a state holiday in Massachusetts. More than a hundred people are hurt.

 

 

Question is, could this be from a rogue individual mastermind or a terrorist attack by Al-Qaeda, who had promised for revenge after Osama Bin Laden was terminated two years ago?

 

 

The last 2-3 weeks have been the scrutiny of a possible war threat between North Korea and US/South Korea, and guess what, it's not them behind this. Source: http://www.examiner.com/article/boston-marathon-bombings-not-thought-to-be-linked-to-north-korea

Edited April 16, 2013 by zocom7

[Doctor Destiny 41]

There's nothing definitive yet, but I don't think it was foreign. This looks more like a domestic job.

[Nmenth 291]

The last 2-3 weeks have been the scrutiny of a possible war threat between North Korea and US/South Korea, and guess what, it's not them behind this.

What a shocker! No not really... The only way war will erupt there is if Kim Jong-un is even stupider than the people who think there is a good possibility of war. In my opinion, he is not quite that stupid, and there is very little chance of war.

[Guest Rabbit]

Yeah, strangely, for the amount of fuss that this has stirred up, it hasn't even been too openly labelled as a terrorist attack, which it obviously is.

 

But yeah, I agree with DD here. I think it was probably something put together domestically, and I think it really has nothing to do with Osama or Al-Qaeda. People assume there's just one group of terrorists, and every terrorist attack that happens is caused by them. That's really not the case at all.

[AZ-Stalker 88]

Ofcourse, It could have just as easily happened to get the eyes of the public off of something more important or to manipulate people in some manner... too much speculation going on. Doesn't matter anyway, people got hurt.

[PurpleGaga27 40]

Then it gets weirder after that event: American Airlines got a computer glitch affecting all of their air traffic, Google got disrupted, and unknown senders send letters to President Obama and a US Senator with ricin poison which is worse than anthrax.

[Guest Rabbit]

Ricin isn't worse than Anthrax, it's just different.

 

You read too much into things, man. None of these computer glitches or disruptions have anything to do with the bombing. Just today, a fertilizer plant exploded, killing 60-70 people. Right before the Boston bombings, gold plummeted more than it ever has in two years . About 115 people died in a car accident today across the United States, and this

his own Harlem Shake video. It's an epidemic, I tell you! Strange things are happening!

 

Next thing you know, a multi-billion dollar bank is going to have web problems, or there will be a worldwide shortage of bread. Oops, some of these weird things are already happening.

 

It's life, man. Nothing is ever in a state of "normal." The president gets literally 50 death threats a day, god forbid someone actually tries to follow through with it.

[Doctor Destiny 41]

If this happened on the 15th, it's Tax Day and Patriot's Day. There's a political connection to that date and the couple of days following. Though, most of this is just random events.

[Luk3us 63]

**** happens.

[AZ-Stalker 88]

Came across stuff like this today:

http://0nlygr33d.tumblr.com/post/48215358179/bam-they-did-it-thank-you-to-whoever-took-these

 

[Plok 327]

But how do we know that isn't fake/staged as well?

 

Nvm, saw the link. Creepy

[AZ-Stalker 88]

It'd be "real funny" if the next thing that happens is that they pin new "terrorist" attacks on some country or group and go take their oil in the name of democracy and "spreading freedom"...

I think the world has seen enough false flag operations and killing already.

 

Just a day ago, I attended a regular interactive lecture at college about how the US as a large superpower doesn't tolerate different mindsets (in regards to other countries and whatnot) and thus strive to americanize everything through force to secure their dominance. You have the western "way of life" and it's "sacred". So... kill everything to preserve it because milk and cookies. Meh, nevermind.

 

Also interesting:

Edited April 18, 2013 by AZ-Stalker

[Plok 327]

Well played, US government. Very well played. Yet I wonder... WHY?

[AZ-Stalker 88]

I don't know.

It's a common tactic to get the public scared and emotional so you can use that to push forward some hidden agendas. 9/11 was one of those IMO... (but lets not get into that)

Also, if a country goes to war or anything like that, you can't destabilize the ruling power so easily because everyone is sopposed to be focused on more "pressing" matters.

So when something like this happens, or like in Croatia when idiotic things hit the news to fill up a program, it just diverts the eyes of many to other things. It's never black & white though.

It could be any number of things going on behind our backs around the globe, the usual way of things ofcourse.

 

It's in the ruling power's interest to have an enemy, even if it's a fictional one.

Edited April 18, 2013 by AZ-Stalker

[Plok 327]

So when something like this happens, or like in Croatia when idiotic things hit the news to fill up a program, it just diverts the eyes of many to other things. It's never black & white though.

At least things like that are more or less transparent over here. Fama volat in such small countries...

[Luk3us 63]

And the conspiracies begin!

[Guest Rabbit]

Well, they killed one guy and caught the other. Not too shabby.

[Doctor Destiny 41]

You morons. This is not a US government job. Why everyone assumes that is beyond me, but I guess everyone always wants to believe that America is nothing but evil. The two guys who are actually connected to the bombings are Russian via Chechnya. And they're hardcore Islamists. So... not exactly a PMC group here. Idiots.

 

[EDIT] Think about this: if a PMC group was actually hired, why the **** would they wear IDENTIFYING MARKS? AZ-Stalker, Plokite_Wolf, stop being idiots. If it's the US government who did it, provide some real evidence instead of unfounded conjecture.

[Plok 327]

You morons. This is not a US government job. Why everyone assumes that is beyond me, but I guess everyone always wants to believe that America is nothing but evil.

They don't want to believe they're evil. They ARE evil in the eyes of the rest of the world. The USA was the cause of the global financial crisis that is still ongoing in a large part of the world, the USA always leads wars that do not even take place in their own country (naturally, because of oil findings in countries that "attacked" them/were framed). Not to mention they force their mentality on the rest of the world!

The two guys who are actually connected to the bombings are Russian via Chechnya. And they're hardcore Islamists. So... not exactly a PMC group here. Idiots.

Pure scapegoats, nothing more. They probably found something in Chechnya and this could be a warning for an upcoming war with Russia (long time, no see, eh?) because the US has an undying need to dominate the world, because 'Murica. You really think they're gonna tell you the real meaning of every move they make? They're not that stupid. If all those 300 million habitants of the US knew exactly what secrets their government holds, that would lead to one real light show.

[Doctor Destiny 41]

This is why I don't bother arguing with conspiratards. There's no evidence, just disjointed opinions that make no sense. Find me some direct evidence that this was an inside job and I'll believe it, but I won't hold my breath since you have no evidence that what you're claiming is even true. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Besides, if you think the US government can actually conceal something like this, you're woefully misguided. Nixon couldn't even conceal a break in at a ****ing psychiatrist's office. JFK, the moon landings, 9/11... there are no conspiracies, just lunatics who don't do any research. Nobody stays quiet for long. Don't be a fool.

 

[EDIT] Come to think of it, why is there always a conspiracy with you people? Is "people blew **** up" not enough for you? Seems like every time something happens, the first people to blame are the leading officials, when, usually, they had nothing to do with the situation and just get the vitriol instead.

 

[EDIT2] And it's only America that's to blame I suppose since the Tokyo sarin gas attacks back in the day weren't blamed on the Japanese government. At least by anyone with any real sense. Come to think of it, London's 7/7 bombings didn't see this amount of venemous hate either. You know what, guys. Grow up and stop trying to blame America for everything.

[Plok 327]

Besides, if you think the US government can actually conceal something like this, you're woefully misguided. Nixon couldn't even conceal a break in at a ****ing psychiatrist's office. JFK, the moon landings, 9/11... there are no conspiracies, just lunatics who don't do any research. Nobody stays quiet for long. Don't be a fool.

You'd expect a country that big to stay in one piece for so long without things happening in the background? The world isn't made of sun and rainbows, you know. Power corrupts, and we're talking about immense power here.

Come to think of it, why is there always a conspiracy with you people? Is "people blew **** up" not enough for you? Seems like every time something happens, the first people to blame are the leading officials, when, usually, they had nothing to do with the situation and just get the vitriol instead.

How do you expect a 20-year old to organize such an attack and place those bombs without anyone noticing? During a freakin' MARATHON? Whoever did this is very experienced and works in a team larger than two, regardless of what the brainwashed brainwashers known as media tell you.

Grow up and stop trying to blame America for everything.

Stop making us blame you, it's quite that simple.

[Chimas 7]

There are some things I don't get it anyway.

If there's a place on earth that is independent from US is Russia. So Russia has these separatists, Chechenia.

The Russians go there and slaughter everyone. They pay back by bombing a street in Boston?

 

And again US is being bombed by someone allowed to study/work/live there?

Why terrorists needs greencard before bombing if they don't need logistics?

This looks like a SNL picture:

T1: Are you gonna bomb XXXX?

T2: No, I'm still waiting for my student visa

T1: But you're here already

T2: shut up! Don't stress me and pass the cigar...

[Guest Rabbit]

Plokite_Wolf, I think it's a little absurd to call it a conspiracy this early in the investigation. Bombers blew up the marathon, and one of these two guys were arrested, after actively killing police and resisting arrest. To say it's a conspiracy at this stage is ridiculous. Of course they did it during a marathon. tens of thousands of people show up, many wearing backpacks, and you think there's reason to expect that they would have immediately pointed out that these guys are bombers without any other reason? The people who were there were thinking about the race, not the fact that some teenager might be putting his backpack on the ground behind them.

 

Anyone could put their backpack on the ground for a legitimate reason. "Oh, my water is in my backpack, let me set it down to grab it." "Oh, my friend is close, I ought to get my camera out." Then, they happen to abandon their bags. With the number of people around, they could have left it next to a crowd and everyone would have assumed it was just someone else's bag.

 

On top of that, these guys weren't just picked out of nowhere as suspects. They were pointed out by a guy who got his goddamn legs blown off.

 

Yes, it's possible there was a team of guys who helped them. Some rumors even came up that the older brother (26 or so) was trained by al-qaeda. But the point is, we don't know. It's still in an investigative process, and to call conspiracy before we've even heard a motive is a little ridiculous at this point. We're only going on what very small amount of information we know. But here's the facts:

 

One brother was 19, the other was 26.

FBI found explosives in the older brother's dorm room.

The brothers killed a cop execution style in his car.

The brothers carjacked a random vehicle.

The living brother fired his weapon at police up until his final location where he was arrested.

The brothers were planning on going back to Russia with their aunt in a few days.

 

Do you really think that these guys would resist so severely if they had no idea what they were doing? And why is it such a government setup plot just to say they might have had assistance? Of course they might have. We have no idea who or what is involved, which is why everyone here is celebrating their arrest.

 

 

My personal belief is that they wanted the crowd. I think they were hoping they could just drop the bombs and walk away and hope that there'd be so big of a crowd, nobody would figure out it was them. But unfortunately for them, the guy who lost his legs pointed them out which is the entire reason they became suspects in the first place. Building evidence and tips just pointed the FBI and police in the right direction.

[Fiesta 0]

You'd expect a country that big to stay in one piece for so long without things happening in the background? The world isn't made of sun and rainbows, you know. Power corrupts, and we're talking about immense power here.

So you sincerely believe that because power corrupts (I won't argue that detail), and there's corruption in govt., that our govt. is willing to kill its own people to motivate the survivors/witnesses to become patriotic and hell-bent on killing muslims or whatever? Sorry, but that's not how things work. Our govt. is much more resourceful than that; if they really wanted to carry out something like that they'd have used either more bombs, more powerful bombs, or both, for maximum impact. 3 dead compared to other terrorist attacks that have happened here and at our embassies overseas isn't very impressive, even counting the survivors that had limbs blown off.

Stop making us blame you, it's quite that simple.

We don't MAKE anyone blame us for ANYTHING. YOU chose to blame us. You act as though we're brainwashing foreigners with the same crap you're accusing us of being brainwashed of. I'm sick of watching idiot after idiot calling us the sheeple of the evil government when all it does is paint you as sheeple of your own kind's ignorance and arrogance. Knock it off already. Edited April 21, 2013 by Fiesta

[Guest Stevie_K]

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