Pistons V Pacers V Fans NBA Brawl!

[Sonic 296]

Did anyone here see that disgusting display by the fans (and players) in Detroit near the end of the Pistons V Pacers NBA game?

 

I've been watching NBA basketball for years but I've never seen anything like it. Fans fighting with players, people throwing drinks and food at the players. Even chairs were flying!!

 

 

Check out this link for more info: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1927380

 

It was a black day for the NBA, the players involved and all those fans in the arena.

[Phreakly 0]

There's a reson there is distance between fans and players in most proffessional sports. Come to think of it, in all real proffessional sports.

[General Leang 0]

That is disgraceful. The players involved give the game of basketball a bad name. It is a non contact sport, not NBA Jam or professional wrestling, even if Dennis Rodman and Karl Malone had taken part in both sports. I remember when commissioner David Stern said that there had to be a much harsher crackdown on players after criminal incidents with players from the Blazers, Magic and Warriors (Clifford Rozier, Dennis Scott and Rasheed Wallace are the ones I can remember committing a crime). It is sad, because such incidents give the impression that basketball is a thug's game.

[Sonic 296]

Well that dude in the picture above (number 91) is Ron Artest and he is nothing but a punk anyway. He basically started it, not by fouling Ben Wallace , by lying back on the scorers table like a smart ass.

I like Ben Wallace but I think he over reacted to that foul.

 

However the person in the crowd shouldn't have thrown the drink on Ron Artest in the first place.

 

Because of this the NBA have to rethink their security measures now. Having the fans so close to action on the court has always been something that the NBA has had over other sports, allowing the fans to see their favourite player up close.

[) 0]

Fans and players don't mix.

 

I know I'd get pissed if some spectator started taunting me durning a whole game...

 

But none the less this behaviour isn't really acceptable yet....

[Doctor Destiny 41]

Leang, basketball is a contact sport. You're going to get hit duriong the course of the game. It's not intentional (most of the time) and it was just a normal foul. Hey, you're going to get hit going for a lay up. :roll:

 

You have to remember something. This is a heated rivalry between these two teams. They faced each other in the division finals to go all the way. There's a lot of tension between the two teams.

 

Sonic, I don't care if you think Artest is a punk. If you throw beer on me, I'm gonna kick you f*cking ass. You've crossed the line between verbal and physical.

[BWare 0]

The fan definitely went too far in throwing that beer, and should be prosecuted and jailed, but I think that the reaction of the player was even worse. These guys need to get under control- nothing excuses him throwing those punches.

[General Leang 0]

Basketball is a non contact game. Certainly contact is made throughout the course of the game, and I have no problem with someone being knock down when a shot is blocked, but it is not a sport where you attack other players no matter how many times Bill Laimbeer did so in his career.

 

There is a law that any fans who throw objects are ejected from the arena and subject to arrest. As far as I know this is a rather strict ruling the NBA has, more so than how to deal with players who commit criminal acts, so you can have confidence that the offenders will be dealt with properly.

[Phreakly 0]

Leang, basketball is a contact sport. You're going to get hit duriong the course of the game. It's not intentional (most of the time) and it was just a normal foul. Hey, you're going to get hit going for a lay up. :roll:

 

Sonic, I don't care if you think Artest is a punk. If you throw beer on me, I'm gonna kick you f*cking ass. You've crossed the line between verbal and physical.

 

You're wrong. Contact means you can run into the player as part of the game to stop them within purpose(player with a puck, or running with the ball in american football). In basketball, you can't deliberately make contact with an opposing player. If they run into you, it's their fault. if you don't get yourself solidly planted, it's yours. Basketball is a non-contact sport. Same as real football.

 

As for Artest, he was likely being thrown out of the game and lying down on the table was totally uncalled for, he was just being a fricking cry baby basketball player and not listening to the officials. He deserved at least a 5 game suspension just for that. Attacking a fan that didn't even throw the beer at him gets him the season. It's what he deserved.

[General Leang 0]

What he deserves is to be dumped by the NBA. Why should people who are going to act this way be payed millions of dollars for playing basketball? Surely there are many talented college players who would jump at the chance of playing professional basketball.

[BWare 0]

What he deserves is to be dumped by the NBA. Why should people who are going to act this way be payed millions of dollars for playing basketball? Surely there are many talented college players who would jump at the chance of playing professional basketball.

 

exactly.

[Phreakly 0]

What he deserves is to be dumped by the NBA. Why should people who are going to act this way be payed millions of dollars for playing basketball? Surely there are many talented college players who would jump at the chance of playing professional basketball.

Because any overpaid cry baby NBA player(pretty much any black player who was drafted before finishing college and was given a $10+million a year contract based on his showboating skills as the NBA is all about entertainment and not at all about sport) in the same position would likely react the same way.

[Sonic 296]

Sonic, I don't care if you think Artest is a punk. If you throw beer on me, I'm gonna kick you f*cking ass. You've crossed the line between verbal and physical.

Artest is crazy, did you see the look in his eyes when the camera had a close up shot if him and someone was holding him back? The dude was ready kill someone.

 

Look at his past, he has been suspended/fined before a few times, only a few weeks ago, about 5 games into the season he goes to the Pacers team mangement and asks for a month off so he can promote an album he was producing and he said he was tired, all of this at the start of the season, give me a break :roll:

He even talked about retirement.

 

You know he went after the wrong person to. Someone else threw the drink and Artest went right past him and started laying into another guy who did nothing. Once Artest went back down on the court he decked another fan.

 

As a professional NBA player and role model to kids he needs calm down and show restraint. He can't do that. There is no place for him in the NBA. The guy needs help, anger mangement or professional help.

 

Also don't forget that Ron Artest, Jermaine O'Neal and Stephen Jackson could also be facing lawsuits and possible jail time.

[General Leang 0]

There was once a football player who decked a fan, and he was banned from playing for ten years. Not recently though, we would be talking back in the 1960's, maybe earlier.

 

It is a little sad, how much the NBA had deterioated. The professionalism that Magic and Bird, Jordan and Erving, Barkley, Drexler, Olajuwan, all the players who respected the game had, is rare these days. More and more players only care if they are making fifty million more than the other guy or promoting their rap albums or films. That is not to say they cannot have ventures outside of basketball. Karl Malone ran a full time trucking business, of all things. O'Neal sucessfully juggled basketball, movies, video games and rap. Jordan made a movie and then had perhaps the best season of his carear, leading Chicago to a record 72-10 record and a championship and cementing his team as one of the greatest. But when players only care about what is away from the game, that is just selfish.

[chickendippers 1]

Eric Cantona (french footballer - played for Manchester United a while back) jumped over the hording and kicked a fan who spat at him, remember, he had studs on.

Can't remember what happened to Cantona, he prolly got a few match bans, but he certainly didn't get banned from playing...at least he kicked the right bloke

[Saracen 16]

Yeah I remember that game, i watched it live on TV, and then I got sick hearing about it in the news and every media that used news. It was a crap flying kick though, but I suppose it's because he's french it's not really a suprise...

 

I had to find the picture of that day, it looked quite funny with the reaction of the fans faces.. so here it is... Oh and the fan involved was with his mum at the match :lol:

 

[chickendippers 1]

lmao - that's just great :lol:

Sadistic little girl on the right seems to be enjoyoing it

[Sonic 296]

It is a little sad, how much the NBA had deterioated. The professionalism that Magic and Bird, Jordan and Erving, Barkley, Drexler, Olajuwan, all the players who respected the game had, is rare these days.

Funny how you mentioned Charles Barkley there. He spat on a fan back in the 1992/1993 season. Rather than spitting on the person who offended him he manged to land one a little girl :lol:

 

Jordan made a movie and then had perhaps the best season of his carear, leading Chicago to a record 72-10 record and a championship and cementing his team as one of the greatest.

That would be the 1995/1996 season. My favourite team the Seattle Supersonics had a 64-18 record that season, just second behind the Bulls. They met the Bulls in the finals, loosing 4-2.

 

How about the Sonics this year though, a great start with a 10-2 record

[General Leang 0]

Ah yes, I remember Barkley doing that. But he is better for the image of the game than people like Artest. Heck, Dennis Rodman is a saint compared to the players from hell the league has problems with. Not to trash players that people might like, but Clifford Rozier, Latrell Sprewell and Derrick Coleman were considered to be some of the most problematic players in the game. It might come as no surprise then that a magazine article rated them as not earning their pay when the teams were compared to see which players were deserving of their saleries and which ones were not (this was when Kevin Garnett signed for $120,000.000).

 

Yes, the Sonics' record was certainly impressive, close to the previous record Chicago broke that was held by the Los Angeles Lakers when they were 69-13. Few teams could hope to come near that. The Bulls looked like they would in 1992, but the wheels fell off and they missed out despite winning the championship.

[Sonic 296]

I've always like Latrell Sprewell, for his on court skills of course. Lost a bit of respect for him last month when he rejected a 15 milllion dollar deal from the TWolves, he said it wasn't enough to feed his family :roll:

 

That probably underlines the greed that NBA players have.

[General Leang 0]

I remember how outraged I was when I heard...not sure how accurate this is but when I heard baseball players demanding more than fifty million a year. Sprewell has nothing on that, but the article I was talking about said his $12.8 million (in 1998) was deserved for his playing skills but he was more trouble than he was worth. Choking coach Nelson would not have helped either.