Cygnus X-1 12 Posted September 12, 2005 um XWings have repulsor lifts allowing them to hover (remember SW 4 ) as for speed XWings dotn look as fast inthe movies because space is relative. speed is hard ot judge. Look at how fast they were goin through the trenches. Keep in mind that the death star was 120 km wide Share this post Link to post
Mr_Lee_ 0 Posted September 13, 2005 I can't deny that they were fast, but the Orcas are just as fast. Share this post Link to post
Cygnus X-1 12 Posted September 14, 2005 Orcas have limits on speed due to Gforce on pilot and friction XWings only have speed limit in atmosphere, and acceleration compensator keeps Gforce down Share this post Link to post
Mr_Lee_ 0 Posted September 15, 2005 the Orcas and the Xwing are pretty evenly matched and it would be interesting to see how they fared against each other. As far as dogfights go, the best ones I've seen were on Blitzkrieg 2 - they felt so real and not faked, like the ones on ZH. Share this post Link to post
Cygnus X-1 12 Posted September 16, 2005 well ORCAs have 6 missiles and limited armor X-Wings have six tactical nuclear missiles, unlimited lasers and rechargin sheilds...... hate to burst your buble, but a contest between the two leans ever so slightly in favor of the X-Wing however comparing hte ORCA to modern fighters....theres a fight id pay money to watch. Share this post Link to post
F15pilotX 4 Posted September 21, 2005 the Orcas and the Xwing are pretty evenly matched and it would be interesting to see how they fared against each other. As far as dogfights go, the best ones I've seen were on Blitzkrieg 2 - they felt so real and not faked, like the ones on ZH. Another problem: they're both on the "good" side in their respectives games/movies Share this post Link to post
Cygnus X-1 12 Posted September 21, 2005 yeah.. but Nod stole some for a mission in TD.. and the Empire stoel a few for various purposes Maybe they could combat each other in a training excersize 8) Share this post Link to post
F15pilotX 4 Posted September 25, 2005 Well, for the X-wing, it was originally the empire's project which the rebels stole, so along w/what u just said, i guess it could be feasible Share this post Link to post
GeneralZ 0 Posted September 27, 2005 X-wings are way better than orcas...think of the technology era. X-wings built when space travel is commonplace. X-Wings have more powerful engines, shields, lasers, and that R2 droid. Orcas are built in the future, but before space travel is possible. Orcas have missiles and some armor. X-wings can go anywhere, in space, in the air, while orcas cant. Orcas have to stay right side up. X-wings dont Orcas is more like helicopter/ VTOL than jet fighter Share this post Link to post
Cygnus X-1 12 Posted September 28, 2005 in the cutscenens ORCAs can manuver like modern day fighters still cant touch an X-Wing though 8) Share this post Link to post
F15pilotX 4 Posted September 28, 2005 Yeah, what Generalz said is true; it's supposed to be about the speed of an apache so that helicopter will have a rival in the c&c series, so yeah, it should be slower The only thing I wonder about the X-Wing, though, is why, so far in the future, they still need refueling :? Share this post Link to post
Cygnus X-1 12 Posted September 29, 2005 They do need refueling, but the hyperdrives barely sip fuel, so they can travel long (and I mean LLOOONNNGGG) distances without refueling though but dogfights eat up a lot of fuel, so after combat, refueling is a must Share this post Link to post
F15pilotX 4 Posted September 30, 2005 Why do dogfights eat up so much more fuel that hyperdrive??? Share this post Link to post
Cygnus X-1 12 Posted September 30, 2005 once your in hyperspace, the hyperspace motivator only has to exert a tiny bit of energy to keep you in, put goin in and out takes a lot dogfights...well, with all that manuvering around, you'll be using a lot of fuel, so.... plus the hyperdrives are not like afterburners, they are a completey different propulsion system than the sub light drives speaking of dogfighting.... the latest trend in fighters is the foreward wings (Mirage 2000, EAF 2000, Rafale 2000, SAAB Gripen, SU-35) and air forces are not emphasising slower combat speeds with much much higher manuverability (F-15 S/MDS, SU-35, F-22) Share this post Link to post
F15pilotX 4 Posted October 1, 2005 Of course: with the much better missiles available today, there is no need to risk getting up close, and therefore, speed is needed more than manueverability :wink: Share this post Link to post
Cygnus X-1 12 Posted October 2, 2005 on the contrary, when your up close, many modern missiles are too fast and will over shoot you in a blink of an eye, and meanwhile, you're flying circles around your "fiends" over there in their F-15s Share this post Link to post
F15pilotX 4 Posted October 4, 2005 They can't shoot past the plane if they're too fast for evasive manuvers :wink: Share this post Link to post
Cygnus X-1 12 Posted October 5, 2005 the faster they are, the more space they need to make manuvers in. meanwhile, your enemy cant lock on to you cause your flying circles around him. :lol: :lol: Share this post Link to post
F15pilotX 4 Posted October 5, 2005 20 mile circles :lol: like a moron who's basically saying "Shoot me, I wanna die" So, I'll just do him the favor Share this post Link to post
Cygnus X-1 12 Posted October 6, 2005 no, that is current use fighters. Im talking abotu the next gen fighters, which are actually in the process of being deployed right now. F-22 EFA-2000 MIR-2000 Saab-Gripen MK 2 SU-27 SU-35 flying circles of several hundred meters, not 20 miles Share this post Link to post
Mr_Lee_ 0 Posted October 7, 2005 I would love to see the return of the Yak Attack or some sort of machine gun planes, like in Blitzkrieg 2 - Thats was my favourite part of the mod. It was characterful watching your planes attacking each other while wondering who would gain the battle tipping air advantage. It was fun in a whimsickle way. Very characterful, very humourous. Share this post Link to post
F15pilotX 4 Posted October 11, 2005 ok....anyway...the new fighters will have speed and manuverability, so yea, we're both right in a way :wink: Share this post Link to post
Cygnus X-1 12 Posted October 11, 2005 all the new fighters are perfectly capably of engaging with their mounted cannons old school stule as well as missiles from range Share this post Link to post
F15pilotX 4 Posted October 11, 2005 Yes, but that is very unlikely because of how effective modern radar and missiles are... :wink: Share this post Link to post
Cygnus X-1 12 Posted October 11, 2005 you'd be surprised at how effective modern radar ISNT MiG-29s and some SU-27s dont even have radar. they use lasrs and a passive infrared system to target enemy aricraft also harder for SAMs ot lock o nthe them, cause SAMa are radar tracking missiles Share this post Link to post