Religious beliefs

[F15pilotX 4]

but if you can attain true happyness wiht your self, and I mean True, not wordly, then I believe that you have made a raport with your self and Jesus within you.

 

Exactly, and the reason we feel that overflowing joy is because we have accepted Christ, and the Holy Spirit dwells in us. :wink:

 

@Louis, if those words were giving you a headache, you just wait

 

Ahh, it's so nice having BWare back so I'm not the only protestant defending our beliefs

[Acerz492 1]

and the reason we feel that overflowing joy is because we have accepted Christ, and the Holy Spirit dwells in us.

 

Erm, no..it's because it's a human emotion called 'Happyness' :roll:

[F15pilotX 4]

I repeat: You can only feel it when you have accepted Christ as your saviour and put your faith in him; THEN and ONLY then will you experiance that overwhelming joy :wink:

[Acerz492 1]

My bad, I read that wrong.

[F15pilotX 4]

No problem...Wow, it's rare I can find you wrong Once in a lifetime oppurtunity

[Acerz492 1]

I don't claim to be right about everything you know.

 

It's what happens when you are an insomniac: You start to miss little details.

[F15pilotX 4]

Don't worry: if I meant that, I would have said:

YOU ARROGANT BASTARD!!!! YOU AREN'T ALWAYS RIGHT YOU KNOW!!!

 

That stinks ...I suffer from a lack of being able to cool off (literally ) when I go to bed

[F15pilotX 4]

Well, back to the topic...

Now if its an imoral life, then you obviously havent achieved that Inner Vision yet, and you need to seek your own guidance. Whether that means Budhism, Aetheism, Catholicism, or whatever, go for it. You can only learn from your expiriences.

 

God is the one that should be giving us guidance, not our own, sinful human nature :wink:

[Guest Rabbit]

No, he shouldn't. He should let us figure things out for ourselves.

[F15pilotX 4]

He gives us guidance, but we are free (obviously) to accept or reject it :wink:

[Guest Rabbit]

Well, good debate. Everything's our choice at the least. Doesn't sound too bad. But, I remain stimulist. 8)

[F15pilotX 4]

Back to the Topic...

 

@ King:

You sure about assuming all wars have been based on religion? That's a wide spectrum of wars and while I do admit that more blood has been shed in the name God than for any other reason, I don't believe that all wars were based on religion. Beliefs, yes, that's true but it's not necessarily a religious war.

 

Good example is the American Revolution. We wanted to be freed from Britain's tyranical rule; nothing religious there. Hell, even the French Revolution was the same. The people wanted to free themselves from tyranical rule. Nothing religious at all.

 

Think about it Fen: if the first colonists hadn't been forced to America by religious persecution in England, America wouldn't have been settled until a long time after that, thereby delaying, if not completely eliminating the War for Indepence :wink:

[Doctor Destiny 41]

The first colonists wre the Puritans. They landed a long time before the idea of freedom was even conceived. So no, the American Revolution was not a religious war.

[Guest Rabbit]

Americans came to ... well... yeah, america.

 

They wanted independence from the taxes that the motherland was pushing on it. :roll:

 

How in the hell is that religion? (Honestly, I think they should've remained one country though... :wink: )

[F15pilotX 4]

The first colonists wre the Puritans. They landed a long time before the idea of freedom was even conceived. So no, the American Revolution was not a religious war.

 

Exactly, and they came over because of religious persecution

 

@Hypnotist, I'm not saying that all wars are because of religion, since they obviously are not; rather, I'm stating that most, if not all, have their roots in religion/greed :wink:

[Hybrid 0]

Wars only happen when people (generally the elite in a countries government) want something. The only real war that i see as worth fighting was World War II. A country does not go to war unless they get something from it, like a resource or more power.

 

Religion is usually totally disconnected from war. You cannot say a small governmental elite can represent the views of millions of people in a country. That would be far from the truth.

[F15pilotX 4]

Wars only happen when people (generally the elite in a countries government) want something. The only real war that i see as worth fighting was World War II. A country does not go to war unless they get something from it, like a resource or more power.

 

Religion is usually totally disconnected from war. You cannot say a small governmental elite can represent the views of millions of people in a country. That would be far from the truth.

 

Hence me saying "Religion/greed :wink:

 

also, when did I state that a small governmental elite can represent the views of millions of people in a country. :?:

[Doctor Destiny 41]

It was implied... or Hybrid is pulling stuff out of his ass again.

[Hybrid 0]

I was speaking to everyone in general, i saw a few comments suggesting that all war is related to religion, which i found a ridiculous claim.

 

Oh fenny, yes i'm pulling stuff out my arse again, obviously if i pulled it out of your ass i'd get "OMG!!!11 Thats not possible *do you realise i'm being sarcastic :rolleyes:" I love you too you, fen, old love bug

[F15pilotX 4]

It was implied... or Hybrid is pulling stuff out of his ass again.

Probably the second

[TheBlackOut 7]

I am Methodist(Christian domination), sort of....

 

Me and mom do not agree with the Catholic Church so we went to a Methodist Church and liked it so, ya.

 

I am not very religious because I some what doubt there is a God, but I don't believe he isn't there, so I am like half and half. I am the type of person who wants evidence.(Kind of like alot of Scientist.)

 

I do have alot of Asian friends, so I sometimes join in on their religion, which is very intresting, but it doesn't look that appealing.

[TheBlackOut 7]

'Bout the American thing, we are studying this right now in History.

 

Puritans - Hard working people who wanted to purify the catholic church

 

Quakers - hippies

 

Separtist - Wanted to complete serparate from the catholic church, and the church of England.

 

There are alot more, but religion didn't really play a role in this, it was the Proclaimation of 1763 and the Stamp Act and the Boston Massacre and "Taxation without Representation" is what set the American Revolution off. Basically, money and Britan's corruptsion set the Revolution off.

[F15pilotX 4]

Quakers - hippies

I'll just say nothing, assuming you know what they really are...

Basically, money and Britan's corruptsion set the Revolution off.

Exactly. Greed for money on the part of the British, not to mention other taxes set because of the cost of the French and Indian war were the causes :wink:

[Guest Rabbit]

OK, back on topic...

 

I was talking to my girlfriend earlier today about her catholic school, and she said her school actually encourages kids to choose their own religion. Why would they do this, if it's a catholic school?

[Hybrid 0]

Because its only fair to allow people to follow their hearts and their minds. Indoctrination doesn't provide any justices in any education system. I was taught at a catholic school and they didn't force religion onto us, they just explained the views of catholicism. A religious school doesn't always have to be a place for indoctrination.