Religious beliefs

[F15pilotX 4]

Exactly: besides, if they are right (which they think they are) then you will end up following that faith anyway :wink:

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Exactly. For instance, I believe that Christianity can stand up to any and all criticism and opposition (legitimate arguments only of course...), and that's why I believe it. Blind faith is extremely dangerous.

[Doctor Destiny 41]

Isn't that what placing faith in a higher being really is? It's still blind faith no matter how you spin it.

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Then what do you call belief in evolution?

[Louis EX 0]

uhhhh Recarnation?

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:?: I think that deserves a WTF flag Louis....

[Louis EX 0]

Hey its not my fault my english is bad

[Guest Rabbit]

It's not the englich :roll:. Reincarnation?!? Why reincarnation?

[Louis EX 0]

It's not the englich?

At least i can spell english :lol:

[Guest Rabbit]

Thus explains the " :roll:." I did that on purpose.

[Cygnus X-1 12]

Every one belives in something. Wether its catholicism, evolution, Bob or whatever, you are putting your trust insomething.

 

For all you darwinists out there, You are trusting that some guy who was a societal reject is correct about a million things that really he only guesstimated at (Estimate=educated guess )

 

so you are also going for the "blind faith" thing

 

Aethists-you are trusting that every one else is wrong and that Bob doest exist. You are trusting that he in fact, does not exist, otherwise you are in one big pile of (explicit)

[F15pilotX 4]

For all you darwinists out there, You are trusting that some guy who was a social reject is correct about a million things that really he only estimated at (Estimate=educated guess :razz: ) I corrected spelling errors to make it easier to read

 

Exactly: Darwin HIMSELF said that Evolution was just a theory (dictionary def. abstract reasoning, speculation)

 

One question for you evolutionists: how can a..for example, paramecium, have built a flagellum (motor) with so many exclusive parts which fit so intricately together, in the short lifespan it has, and manage to gather all of the parts needed for the flegellum to be built??? Some give the excuse that it just picks up parts common to all cells, but, in fact, there are only 10 common parts in the flagellum, and 30 parts needed and used exclusively for that kind of cell motor. :wink:

 

The obvious answer is no, the odds are TOO GREAT for it to happen by chance!

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"To suppose that the eye, with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest possible degree."

-Charles Darwin

[Hybrid 0]

If God exists, then he exists in one form. Infinite love. If infinite love exists then so does the infinite universe. If that exists then we have had infinite lives before this one in infinite worlds or world lines. We may be repeating a life we have already done before, just in another world line.

 

Self is a key role to spirituality and understanding. Self is you, you are self.

 

If you asked a typical atheist if God exists, they will typically say no. However if you asked the same atheist if they themselves exist, they will say, yes. I have never known a man or women to deny their own existence.

 

We exist, as ourselves, as humans. Collectively, we make a community; that community moulds us and brings us to a higher level of being and view. The community cannot exist, if we do not exist. We are part of that community. Multiple communities that interconnect make a society; we are part of that society. These are the views we perceive on a 3rd dimensional intellectual scale.

 

Our planet earth exists. If earth did not exist, we would not exist, however when we say earth we think of “home.” We are part of earth. On a bigger scale, earth is a planet, which is part of the galaxy. Earth cannot exist if the galaxy does not exist. The galaxy is part of the universe; the galaxy cannot exist if the universe does not exist.

 

How do we know this? Because science has told us, every day science learns more about our existence. Isn’t it entirely possible that if the universe exists, God exists? After all something much larger has to exist for the universe to exist, right? Just because science hasn’t proved it yet, I wouldn’t close your mind around believing God does not exist, because it’s entirely possible he does. You’ve just got to listen to your self. Your “self” holds the entire universe inside your heart; you can find all answers from within.

 

God made us and we make god; we are a part of god. This is God exploring "self." God is truth. Infinite love is the only truth, everything else is illusion. To believe the illusion, is existence in denial.

[BWare 0]

That nonsense really turns you on, donesn't it Hybrid? Good lord... :roll:

 

Can anyone read that last post and not laugh? Seriously...

[Hybrid 0]

Your welcome

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*You're welcome

 

:wink:

[Hybrid 0]

I'll clarify the points in simplier terms. Remember this is all theoretical. The reason i posted this was because it is relevent to "God." I just thought maybe i posted stuff that would make no sense to any of you simply because its written in a way i would understand it and in my style of thinking rather than the typical "normal" style.

 

Under this, all religions are worshipping the same God. Religion is just a way of understanding god with philosophy. Religion is a philosophy. None are false, none are true, they are just guides to life on earth.

 

If God exists, then he exists in one form. Infinite love. If infinite love exists then so does the infinite universe. If that exists then we have had infinite lives before this one in infinite worlds or world lines. We may be repeating a life we have already done before, just in another world line.

If god exists he is infinite. Infinite is unimaginable by the human mind, we know it means forever, but we could not imagine the mass or size of infinite, because it simply is infinite.

 

If this was the case, then God would be exploring himself, and by that the big bang is just the creation of himself, creating the world we live in. The big bang would also be infinite meaning if would happen and travel off into infinite, so there would be "co-inciding" timelines. We exist in 2005, infinite other universes also exist in 2005, others exist in different times, 3000, or 100BC, etc etc. This simply validates the possibility of reincarnation.

 

Self is a key role to spirituality and understanding. Self is you, you are self.

Self is what Buddhists consider the truth. To find true self is to live in harmony with everything around you. Understanding, morality and life come naturally then, as they should. It is how humans were designed to be, natural and physical beings of this planet.

 

If you asked a typical atheist if God exists, they will typically say no. However if you asked the same atheist if they themselves exist, they will say, yes. I have never known a man or women to deny their own existence.

An atheist will deny the existence of god, but not himself. Obviously. However they will also believe in other theories, and all theories would be part of god anyway, if god exists. So ultimately they are believing in god without realising.

 

 

We exist, as ourselves, as humans. Collectively, we make a community; that community moulds us and brings us to a higher level of being and view. The community cannot exist, if we do not exist. We are part of that community. Multiple communities that interconnect make a society; we are part of that society. These are the views we perceive on a 3rd dimensional intellectual scale.

Let me explain. As you progress through life you learn a huge amount of information about yourself.

 

You start as a child, you fend for yourself only, particular selfish. As your mind and intellect expands you become more aware of others and other peoples feelings. You begin to accept responsibility for your actions and slowly move onto accepting responsibility for others, e.g. in jobs, babysitting, maybe even a family. Later you begin to see the bigger picture and accept responsibility for parts in a community, or even have views for national or international ideals (politics). You have all developed this far into the 3rd dimensional self. The further self then goes on to experience 4th dimensional as in begins to take in information from their senses, (sound, sight, etc). You notice things more, you become more aware. It naturally happens with politics. You begin to accept responsibility for your own role in life, some have this more than others. This is called society.

 

What does this have to do with God or religion? Awareness, i am trying to raise a point that the awareness is enlightenment and you constantly progress and move up the system. That could easily make it possible that there is more to the system that the physical world, i.e. a spiritual one. That leads to the 4th and 5th dimensional structure. Which most of you may consider insane, so i'll stop there

 

 

Our planet earth exists. If earth did not exist, we would not exist, however when we say earth we think of “home.” We are part of earth. On a bigger scale, earth is a planet, which is part of the galaxy. Earth cannot exist if the galaxy does not exist. The galaxy is part of the universe; the galaxy cannot exist if the universe does not exist.

This continues from the concepts of the universe, 5th dimensional views. The idea there is more out there and we are just waiting to find it.

 

How do we know this? Because science has told us, every day science learns more about our existence. Isn’t it entirely possible that if the universe exists, God exists? After all something much larger has to exist for the universe to exist, right? Just because science hasn’t proved it yet, I wouldn’t close your mind around believing God does not exist, because it’s entirely possible he does. You’ve just got to listen to your self. Your “self” holds the entire universe inside your heart; you can find all answers from within.

Science is our way of explaining "God," or whats around us. Science is constantly moving forward. This text was really more for the atheists. One day we may physically prove the existence of god, however its unlikely.

 

 

God made us and we make god; we are a part of god.

We make god in our minds, god mades us by existing. Logical. It says there is no firm conclusion yet on God. There is no reason to argue, fight, blow each other up, fly planes into buildings just over God. It's total and utter bull****. If god exists, we must recognise the possibility he exists and try to find ourselves to see though the illusion of physical life. Even if he doesn't and we find nothing, we still have gained, because we found ourselves, our own voice and begin to understand how our minds and bodies really do work.

 

This is God exploring "self."

If god exists, hes infinite. So this is gods way of exploring himself in every possible way (infinity). We are part of him, we are helping god, because we love him infinitely as we love each other infinitely.

 

God is truth. Infinite love is the only truth, everything else is illusion. To believe the illusion, is existence in denial.

God is truth, in a symbolic term truth lays in our hearts, we must find it, truth doesn't come to us.

 

In conclusion to believe the illusion of the physical life rather than question the possibility, we deny our very existence, which would be the existence of god. My last quote could also go onto things that you guys would probably understand more.

 

You may not agree with me here but keep your opinion out of it and just think directly on "theory." To believe in democracy (illusion) we are selling ourselves to the people rulling it. We are denying about ability to be intelligent and lead ourselves. We are denying our very existence of intelligence.

 

Get it? I tried to clarify. If you guys don't understand and are fed up with my "mumbo jumbo", then click the ignore button, those who may be interested can simply read it. I won't have lost anything because i had nothing to gain in the first place.

 

Relevence of all of this? God may exist, he may not, we have no certainity yet, (ignorance of humans). But to understand this, then we see all religions are the same, based on the same philosophy and river of life. The fighting seizes and all religions choose to learn from each other. (Yeah i know, what an idealist i am :roll:).

 

Peace out guys

[Saracen 16]

And what was the point in clarifying yourself by quoting what you already written? That post just seems a waste of your time and everyone else's reading it... I mean is there any reason for wanting to read these long winded replies? Not in my book.

[Acerz492 1]

If you asked a typical atheist if God exists, they will typically say no. However if you asked the same atheist if they themselves exist, they will say, yes. I have never known a man or women to deny their own existence.

 

That's because the typical athiest will tell you that we are the current result of a process that's been happening for millions of years: Evolution. :roll:

 

We exist, as ourselves, as humans. Collectively, we make a community; that community moulds us and brings us to a higher level of being and view. The community cannot exist, if we do not exist. We are part of that community. Multiple communities that interconnect make a society; we are part of that society. These are the views we perceive on a 3rd dimensional intellectual scale.

 

Our planet earth exists. If earth did not exist, we would not exist, however when we say earth we think of “home.” We are part of earth. On a bigger scale, earth is a planet, which is part of the galaxy. Earth cannot exist if the galaxy does not exist. The galaxy is part of the universe; the galaxy cannot exist if the universe does not exist.

 

Way to go to completely state the obvious. :roll:

 

How do we know this? Because science has told us, every day science learns more about our existence. Isn’t it entirely possible that if the universe exists, God exists? After all something much larger has to exist for the universe to exist, right? Just because science hasn’t proved it yet, I wouldn’t close your mind around believing God does not exist, because it’s entirely possible he does. You’ve just got to listen to your self. Your “self” holds the entire universe inside your heart; you can find all answers from within.

 

No.

 

God made us and we make god; we are a part of god. This is God exploring "self." God is truth. Infinite love is the only truth, everything else is illusion. To believe the illusion, is existence in denial.

 

Mate, I don't know what you've been smoking, but to believe that "love is the only truth and everything else is an illusion" just makes me question your sanity. Not only that, you've contradicted yourself. You say that "God is Truth" and immediately afterwards you say, "Infinte love is the only truth...etc" Now, from what I understand, God and Infinite Love are -not- the same thing. :roll:

 

Here's a little something for you:

 

I see my hand. Now, I could ask myself, "is my hand real?" The obvious answer is yes, because it is a part of my body, and it is right in front of my face. Next, I could ask myself, "Is this an illusion?" The obvious answer this time, is no. It is not an illusion. Again, because I can see it right in front of my face.

 

My point? What you say about "love being the only truth and everything else is an illusion" is silly and pointless. :roll: Stop here and now, and get a grip on reality.

[Hybrid 0]

That's because the typical athiest will tell you that we are the current result of a process that's been happening for millions of years: Evolution. :roll:

Earth is a physical thing, its natural. It's stupid to deny evolution. Your evolving now, growing, changing, physically and mentally.

 

Way to go to completely state the obvious. :roll:

 

Obivously the "completely obvious" missed the clarify, its called progression. You learn constantly through life. A spiritual journey and development. What i was showing is the structure of how you move up and accept responsibility. You then learn more and see more and move further on. Thats the 3rd dimensional prospect.

 

No.

Are you that sure?

 

Mate, I don't know what you've been smoking, but to believe that "love is the only truth and everything else is an illusion" just makes me question your sanity. Not only that, you've contradicted yourself. You say that "God is Truth" and immediately afterwards you say, "Infinte love is the only truth...etc" Now, from what I understand, God and Infinite Love are -not- the same thing. :roll:

 

God = truth

Infinite love = the only truth

God = infinite love.

 

Figure that out yet?

 

Here's a little something for you:

 

I see my hand. Now, I could ask myself, "is my hand real?" The obvious answer is yes, because it is a part of my body, and it is right in front of my face. Next, I could ask myself, "Is this an illusion?" The obvious answer this time, is no. It is not an illusion. Again, because I can see it right in front of my face.

You chose what you believe is real my friend. You make your own reality. You look at your hand, you see it as "real" right? I see cells, particles and atoms. All made with an energy to make up a physical being. How do i know this, we have microscopes to understand it. Before we knew nothing about it, we never saw that it existed, so we had no idea we were so complex. This physical being is one of the most complex on this earth due to the power of its own mind, hence why this physical being rules. Reality is more than what you perceive, there is so much more to yourself than you realise. You just have to find it.

 

My point? What you say about "love being the only truth and everything else is an illusion" is silly and pointless. :roll: Stop here and now, and get a grip on reality.

 

Heres the illusion: You were born.... to die... Yes? What is inbetween birth and death is life. What you do with it is your choice entirely. The illusion is you came into this world with nothing, you then start living and thinking you "own" stuff. Do you own your PC? Do you own your TV? No, its earths. Thats the smallest part of the physical illusion. The sense of loss and gain. When you die, you leave this world with nothing. We stand here today, in the center of nowhere? When i do an arrow this way <- its left, yes? This way -> is right. In space, left and right don't exist. The illusion is, just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The illusion is, human rules are not the reality. We have made our own reality and our reality is ever so close minded. We have the power to do more, we just deny it. Deny existence.

 

The reason i do not want to get a grip on "reality" is because its again down to opinion. Your reality is physical, limited and closed; mine is universal, infinite and open. WE make our own realities, we really do have that POWER. That is the POWER of God.

[Louis EX 0]

And what was the point in clarifying yourself by quoting what you already written? That post just seems a waste of your time and everyone else's reading it... I mean is there any reason for wanting to read these long winded replies? Not in my book.

Exactly! Thank You King!

Why dun you guys juz put it in short form!!!!!!!

So ppl who dun have time can read!!!!

[Guest Rabbit]

How do we know this? Because science has told us, every day science learns more about our existence. Isn’t it entirely possible that if the universe exists, God exists?

 

1. Science proves that he is not really physically everywhere. Everything is made up of atoms, and there are no atoms floating around that are called Jesusthine, or Godominium.

 

2. How does Science discover the answer to a thought? A belief? You can't come up with a theorum, or even a theory if god/theism is based on opinion.

 

Sure, we can discover the Universe, so we should be able to discover god, but think about it, we have also discovered that we've had the big bang, and the universe for about 18 billion years. And the big bang came from a previous universe that came from a big bang, and that universe had a huge gravitational pull that pulled the universe back into a ball, and creates more big bangs.

 

God has not existed long according to what He says. Apparently, He has only been around for about what, 6000 years?

[Guest Rabbit]

Oh, and with love. Love is a happy emotion. Sadness is a thought. Happiness is a thought. Love, Anger, Fear, all of these different emotions are thoughts.

 

God. Your love for him is a thought. Odds are, you only love god, because your parents love god, and you take that from them.

[Louis EX 0]

Oh, and with love. Love is a happy emotion. Sadness is a thought. Happiness is a thought. Love, Anger, Fear, all of these different emotions are thoughts.

 

God. Your love for him is a thought. Odds are, you only love god, because your parents love god, and you take that from them.

Sounds logical