General Leang 0 Posted November 18, 2005 This may have been asked before, but I thought I would throw up another tough question. Would you consider the portrayal of the Al Qaeda inspired GLA fair? For that matter, what of USA and China? Would you consider their portrayal fair as well? Share this post Link to post
VampireA05 0 Posted November 18, 2005 i dont think so..cos al-Qaeda dont have tanks.. what do they have is bombs, suicide bombers, bombs, anthraks, bombs, mustard gas & a lot of bombs..not to mention, digicam..well, they use it to make statements after they blow up something.. USA?? maybe the information leak regarding the F/A-22 & Aurora China?? cant find any elements that resemble real China (except nationalism) Share this post Link to post
Thorak 0 Posted November 18, 2005 Al-Qaeda could be represented by Prince Kassad (stealth). China could be represented by infantry general. USA tech is experimental in real life (as far as I know - especially all laser tech). Share this post Link to post
General Leang 0 Posted November 18, 2005 Yes, I heard criticism about GLA having tanks and being able to go toe to toe with USA and China before. I was thinking more their personnality. Their attitudes. The Toxin Tractors killing civillians for example, or the overly gung ho American rocket soldiers. I highly doubt any real terrorist would be able to sue over defamation but are some of the targets Generals aims at cop too much of a serve? Share this post Link to post
VampireA05 0 Posted November 19, 2005 nah..it just a games..people try to sell ideas every now & then.. watch some movies about tech/weapons/ideas..and scientis try to immitate it... and movies like 'StarWars', movie makers will make it 'real' for you... china i think because they have massive forces & weapons.. Share this post Link to post
Mr_Lee_ 0 Posted November 19, 2005 In my opinion the portrayals were fair. The anthesis of there still actually being ehnough ex soviet hardwarde in the world to create an army is more than likely. Most of the Middle Eastern warlords use it because its so reliable and cheap. Hence, the GLA would be able to get hold of it without question really. Many people also comment on some of tyhe customisations that have been made to these weapons, for example, crude lasersights for tanks or giving the ZSU more potent bullets. China wasn't fair in Chinas eyes, but their basic idea was more than right in my opinion. They weren't pretentious and self righteous like many would percieve the chinese military to be. The only coo I really had was the lack of planes. The USA was grosslyu overdone as a patriotic weapon to try and boost sales, but doing it in such a manner that didn't make you wanna throw ~Generals at a wall. I think this was achieved while not really being fair to any spectrum of realism. Share this post Link to post
VampireA05 0 Posted November 20, 2005 well, they did have soviets hardware..and also Americans.. they acquired stingers (USA) the USA sponsored them (al-Qaeda) to crush the Soviet invaders in Afghans..and they won..Soviets ran away, & left some equipments (ie. weapon & technology at that time but i doubt about the tanks) i dont know whats the deal between the USA & al-Qaeda but they fought each other & the al-Qaeda were using USA weapons to againts their own sponsors-the USA.. and the USA doenst like the idea of using their own weapon to againts themselves.. unless, the Iraqi, they got tanks & aircraft...mostly Russian (Mostly Soviet) made during Saddam's regime. Share this post Link to post
Acerz492 1 Posted November 24, 2005 In my opinion the portrayals were fair. The anthesis of there still actually being ehnough ex soviet hardwarde in the world to create an army is more than likely. Most of the Middle Eastern warlords use it because its so reliable and cheap. Hence, the GLA would be able to get hold of it without question really. Many people also comment on some of tyhe customisations that have been made to these weapons, for example, crude lasersights for tanks or giving the ZSU more potent bullets. China wasn't fair in Chinas eyes, but their basic idea was more than right in my opinion. They weren't pretentious and self righteous like many would percieve the chinese military to be. The only coo I really had was the lack of planes. The USA was grosslyu overdone as a patriotic weapon to try and boost sales, but doing it in such a manner that didn't make you wanna throw ~Generals at a wall. I think this was achieved while not really being fair to any spectrum of realism. I agree whole-heartedly here. Well said Lee! Share this post Link to post
Mr_Lee_ 0 Posted November 24, 2005 In my opinion the portrayals were fair. The anthesis of there still actually being ehnough ex soviet hardwarde in the world to create an army is more than likely. Most of the Middle Eastern warlords use it because its so reliable and cheap. Hence, the GLA would be able to get hold of it without question really. Many people also comment on some of tyhe customisations that have been made to these weapons, for example, crude lasersights for tanks or giving the ZSU more potent bullets. China wasn't fair in Chinas eyes, but their basic idea was more than right in my opinion. They weren't pretentious and self righteous like many would percieve the chinese military to be. The only coo I really had was the lack of planes. The USA was grosslyu overdone as a patriotic weapon to try and boost sales, but doing it in such a manner that didn't make you wanna throw ~Generals at a wall. I think this was achieved while not really being fair to any spectrum of realism. I agree whole-heartedly here. Well said Lee! *Takes a bow* Nothing like the truth 8) Share this post Link to post
Woofna 0 Posted December 3, 2005 General's version of the USA was a complete embarassment... and if the chinese were not satisfied with how much EA games was sucking their c***s, then, I'm pretty mystified. Especially ZH. Realistically, the US would win, hands down. Also, although we may be a tiny bit less likely to use it, we have a larger nuclear program than the chinese. Share this post Link to post
Mr_Lee_ 0 Posted December 15, 2005 General's version of the USA was a complete embarassment... Explain to us here on the CNCNZ forums how the most technologically advanced faction, with the best units was 'an embarrasment; - I think you're grossly wrong. Share this post Link to post
Acerz492 1 Posted December 15, 2005 Realistically, the US would win, hands down. Also, although we may be a tiny bit less likely to use it, we have a larger nuclear program than the chinese. Pfft, I doubt it. Who cares as to whether the Chinese would win against the US forces anyway? :roll: We have no incentive to go to war with China, so to even say that the US would win 'hands down' is childish. I highly doubt either side would launch a nuclear warhead at each other. Too much risk at stake for it to turn into a full-blown nuclear war. Explain to us here on the CNCNZ forums how the most technologically advanced faction, with the best units was 'an embarrasment; - I think you're grossly wrong. Yes. Please do, we would like to hear your reasons. Share this post Link to post
General Leang 0 Posted December 15, 2005 Is it their utter jingoism perhaps? Share this post Link to post
Mr_Lee_ 0 Posted December 18, 2005 You know, Leang, I was thinking the same thing Share this post Link to post
General Leang 0 Posted December 18, 2005 I remember a thread I ran some time ago over the most hated unit from all the games (Gattling Cannons and tanks, Rocket Buggys, ect). The USA rocket soldiers got a look in, which is fair enough as I would imagine they would actually be offensive in today's very liberal world. Share this post Link to post
Cygnus X-1 12 Posted January 12, 2006 heres the deal GLA - very accurate, except for them still using a centralized base command, but its RTS, you can only go so far. There is in fact tons of old Soviet hardware lying around EVERYwhere. China - Accurate in my eyes, I fail to see why the real Chinese governemt doesnt like it, especialyl after ZH where China came in to save Europe. US - Good forces, high tech, strong airpower, I like it a lot. Heres the deal with the US being an embarrassment. Smaller issue - M1 Abrams tanks are the biggest and baddest tanks around. Some people may not like Chine Being the tank power. But thats a minor issue. The real issue is the missions. When you play as the US, there are a few things, but when you play as GLA and China, the US is made out to be quite frankly (forgive me here) rather French acting. Always running away and getting their/our arses handed to us on a platter. Share this post Link to post
Mr_Lee_ 0 Posted January 15, 2006 The 'frenchness' of the USA is representative of them in the storyline, and the way of countering the 'shock and awe' in a war of attrition. The USA of ZH really had no staying power. Share this post Link to post
Cygnus X-1 12 Posted January 15, 2006 as stated. Its still a little annoying to see a GLA fishing boat with 40 hijackers on it land on Californian coast and there is no presence of Coast Guard or National Guard forces anywhere. Share this post Link to post
General Leang 0 Posted January 15, 2006 Then again, weapons of mass destruction are about as commonplace as military action, so it can be forgiven for not being so realistic those GLA were not caught at the airport with their knives. But this detail can be forgiven because they might have already been in America. They might have been there for years, and had simply gone up river. I cannot recall any indication otherwise. Share this post Link to post
Cygnus X-1 12 Posted January 15, 2006 hmm good points. Well, its would be kinda funny (in an ironic sense) if someone tried to do what the GAL did in the 4th Zh mission and ran into a full garrison of National Guard. Share this post Link to post