Guest Rabbit Posted October 12, 2006 those two bombs saved literally MILLIONS of Japanese and American lives by not forcing the United States of America to invade Japan. Actually, in my history class they tell us that Japan was already about to surrender, yet they dropped the bombs anyway. Confirmation anyone? I'm not positive if this is correct. Share this post Link to post
Doctor Destiny 41 Posted October 12, 2006 It's not. The Japanese fought to the last man and would never surrender so early. The bombs made them surrender. Share this post Link to post
comander starlin 6 Posted October 12, 2006 i am not to sure on that i must look it up in my numerous WW2 books Share this post Link to post
BWare 0 Posted October 12, 2006 Actually, in my history class they tell us that Japan was already about to surrender, yet they dropped the bombs anyway. Confirmation anyone? I'm not positive if this is correct. FALSE! I'm positive that it's not correct. What, were we not letting them surrender? The fact that it took TWO nukes should be proof enough here for ya. Beo is right. They swore to fight to the last man woman and child. They were savages. When they ran out of bombs and low on fuel, they used thier planes and pilots as bombs. As I said earlier, ending that insane conflict with the nukes was frankly an act of mercy. Share this post Link to post
Alphabear 11 Posted October 13, 2006 Im more than willing to stay if you want me to but i figured the the rest of you would be over it by now also. If not then im happy to continue just walk away trust me on this obviously you dont know me well enough Share this post Link to post
F15pilotX 4 Posted October 13, 2006 those two bombs saved literally MILLIONS of Japanese and American lives by not forcing the United States of America to invade Japan. Actually, in my history class they tell us that Japan was already about to surrender, yet they dropped the bombs anyway. Confirmation anyone? I'm not positive if this is correct. where they get your history books? And alpha, just argue when you're bored, as it's very hard to prove BWare wrong based on facts Share this post Link to post
Alphabear 11 Posted October 14, 2006 those two bombs saved literally MILLIONS of Japanese and American lives by not forcing the United States of America to invade Japan. Actually, in my history class they tell us that Japan was already about to surrender, yet they dropped the bombs anyway. Confirmation anyone? I'm not positive if this is correct. where they get your history books? And alpha, just argue when you're bored, as it's very hard to prove BWare wrong based on facts but the only way to prove someone wrong is with facts. Share this post Link to post
F15pilotX 4 Posted October 14, 2006 I'm saying that he almost always has his facts straight :wink: Share this post Link to post
Alphabear 11 Posted October 14, 2006 but just like everybody else emotions cloud understanding of the facts. If everyone dealt purely on the facts there would be no reason to debate. Share this post Link to post
BWare 0 Posted October 14, 2006 Sorry, but you're incorrect. The world just isn't that black and white. Facts are still very grey at times and can be twisted and misused. Just look at global warming..... wrong assumptions even from accurate data, emotions aside, can lead to some horribly wrong conclusions. Can't blame that on emotion. Share this post Link to post
F15pilotX 4 Posted October 15, 2006 So to summarize this interesting debate, we have concluded that: The people in those videos were nutjobs, and not examples of real Christians [*]The kids won't go bombing any Muslim buildings [*]Facts don't always lead to the truth So, instead of using 2 hours reading the topic, read this post, and understand it all; I just cut out a few pagelong arguments Share this post Link to post
comander starlin 6 Posted October 16, 2006 ok but don't for get if you want to have a anger attack watch the video as well lol Share this post Link to post
F15pilotX 4 Posted October 16, 2006 Of course, it's sort of implied that you have to watch the video, as there are two references to it Share this post Link to post
F15pilotX 4 Posted October 25, 2006 Since we're done with Christian Jihadism, what's everyone's opinions on the day-age vs. literal day versions of creationism? (If King and Sonic don't mind, of course ) Share this post Link to post
comander starlin 6 Posted October 26, 2006 wow i must say that is very different Share this post Link to post
BWare 0 Posted October 26, 2006 Since we're done with Christian Jihadism... ...in that we proved that it just plain doesn't exist. ...what's everyone's opinions on the day-age vs. literal day versions of creationism? (If King and Sonic don't mind, of course ) I would say that it doesn't really even matter. That said, I think that both of these ideas have their merits, but I would most likely lean toward the Day-Age theory. Share this post Link to post
Guest Rabbit Posted October 26, 2006 I know that an admin started this thread, but the fact that we are now moving towards the topic of religions in general, by adding in more outside sources makes this thread a candidate for a block. I'm just going to keep my eye on it for now. Share this post Link to post
BWare 0 Posted October 26, 2006 Ooohh, thanks for the consideration there hypno. This new topic isn't at all religious. It in some ways relates to religion (what doesn't?), but it is absolutely a scientific discussion. I know that your trigger finger is itchy after being made a moderator, but there's no reason to get uppity about this thread. Share this post Link to post
Guest Rabbit Posted October 26, 2006 Hey, it does have to do with religion. That's why I said I would monitor it. Don't be all up on my arse just because I'm a moderator now, I know my job, so you don't need to critisize it. Share this post Link to post
BWare 0 Posted October 26, 2006 My previous post stands. It's a very, very low key scientific discussion. Nothing to do with religion. But please, by all means, continue to "monitor" it. :lol: Share this post Link to post
Alphabear 11 Posted October 26, 2006 no offense ware but i fail to see how this has nothing to do with religion and is purely scientific. I dont see much science behind the literal day creationism. F15pilotXP wrote:Since we're done with Christian Jihadism... ...in that we proved that it just plain doesn't exist. hmm i dont remember that ever being proved, we all just sort of digressed. Share this post Link to post
F15pilotX 4 Posted October 26, 2006 That said, I think that both of these ideas have their merits, but I would most likely lean toward the Day-Age theory.What are your reasons for that? (lets just carry this into PMs, as I have a better idea for this topic) Evolution vs. creationism anyone? Just present why you think one is right/the other is wrong :wink: Share this post Link to post