Anarchy

[Doctor Destiny 41]

You're basically saying "your culture contradicts our own and you must change to fit our desires." How the **** is that NOT racist?

[BioBen 3]

No, he's saying, your culture is different to ours we're not gonna change for you. You immigrated here, if you want it to be like your old country go back to it.

comprendre?

[TheBlackOut 7]

You're basically saying "your culture contradicts our own and you must change to fit our desires." How the **** is that NOT racist?

No I am not.

 

No, he's saying, your culture is different to ours we're not gonna change for you. You immigrated here, if you want it to be like your old country go back to it.

comprendre?

Exactly.

[Doctor Destiny 41]

My point is why is another culture so much of a problem? You still haven't answered that.

[TheBlackOut 7]

My point is why is another culture so much of a problem? You still haven't answered that.

You never asked.

 

If two cultures merge or at least respect one another, that's fine. When two cultures collide, the new one doesn't want to somewhat mix in with the rest and impose itself on the native culture, then you got a problem. A pretty good Muslims have called for Sharia Law in Europe (most noticeably the U.K.). Granted, it will only apply to Muslims, but that is still wrong. You came to the country by you're choice, why shouldn't you have to live by its already established laws? Western Civilization at this point in time has separation of religion from government, a very very good thing. Many Muslims there want to reverse that. Freedom of Speech! Oh wait.. Denmark.. riots... nevermind.

 

Freedom of Equality! Everyone is equal regardless of race, gender, and anything else! Nope, women have to conform to laws in Islam that men do not.

 

Are these a problem? Maybe not for Islam and Muslims, but it is for Western people, cultures, and ideas.

 

I am ragging on one culture that is causing problems, that is the only one. I have no problems with Mexicans, Blacks, Jews, Asians, Indians, etc. Why would I? They've come to the West and conformed to our ideas, or at least just follow them. Radical Muslims... not so much.

[Doctor Destiny 41]

Seems reasonable enough. Then again, I feel pretty much the same way. However, the way Mina sounded was like she couldn't tolerate another culture at all. Hence my statement.

[Mina Synd 0]

don't get me wrong i love all races. but the fact all the "immigrants" and such from middle eastern countries are coming over here, getting better rights then the native brits then expecting we change our government to how they want it? that's just not right. if they are in our country they respect our rules, not change them. that is what upsets me... it's bad enough they get better rights but i can understand that. if you're running from possible death, it's good that our country would give you a house, a car and a credit card to start you off, as well as benefits if you can't get a job or don't speak english. but the problem is a lot of these people don't even try... and ontop of that they bring their families and friends and convert whole sections of the town into muslim only areas. where sharia law actually takes place. and that scares the heck out of me. sure, sharia law is effective and in some areas a good idea. but the problem is the more extreme stuff... having your hands cut off for stealing? i don't think so. having to wear a veil all the time and not showing any skin? HELL no. i mean we can respect other people's religions and such but when they are trying to change our ways of life it's just not on. did you know christian religions are pretty much wiped out in the uk? you aren't allowed to do anything christian in case you offend people. and you can actually be arrested for waving an english flag about without good reason. what kind of bull is this y'know? it's just not right. (and before people start commenting try going to a school christmas event. it will be a "european friendly" nativity play. and my friend got arrested for waving a british flag about walking down the street because a muslim complained about it) sure call me racist if you want, but i just want a free uk. if i wanted sharia law i'd move to iraq or something :\

[Gben 20]

Well the British seemed to do it to everyone else in the world when we all got 'colonised'. (it being - invasion and conversion of the savages to their point of view)... some would say that's karma but not me.

 

- refugees flee their terror to a place they perceive as better and willingly adapt to the new culture

- missionaries are appointed to foreign countries to convert heathens to their culture.

 

IMO - most Islamists seem to be in the latter category. The difference seems to be 'breeding' is a central part of the strategy. Western cultures see 1 or 2 children at the most latter in life is good, where Islam is be fruitful and multiply ASAP.

 

[TheBlackOut 7]

Well the British seemed to do it to everyone else in the world when we all got 'colonised'. (it being - invasion and conversion of the savages to their point of view)... some would say that's karma but not me.

 

- refugees flee their terror to a place they perceive as better and willingly adapt to the new culture

- missionaries are appointed to foreign countries to convert heathens to their culture.

 

IMO - most Islamists seem to be in the latter category. The difference seems to be 'breeding' is a central part of the strategy. Western cultures see 1 or 2 children at the most latter in life is good, where Islam is be fruitful and multiply ASAP.

Yep. Interesting (horrible) times are ahead my friends.

[BioBen 3]

Vote for tougher immagration laws, wait with them being fruitful and that, they can't be stopped

[Mina Synd 0]

there are already too many of them in the uk as it is x3; we can stop more coming in legally but it won't stop the ones already here from bringing their buddies over illegally o.O; they make up quite a large amount of the populous and they DON'T even try to blend with everyone else. in some areas of the country, especially in london there are whole districts specifically filled with muslims who refuse to blend o.o; i've known people who have been beaten up just for wandering in there because they weren't muslim c.c; scares the bejesus out of me. respect the countries laws or go back to your own country y'know >-> an yah, england did take over most of the known world. but we advanced the world. we took on knowledge and spread it with the people we take over, we taught them things and made them better. we gave countries things from other countries that they had never seen before o.O and is most of the world speaking english a bad thing? it saves a lot of confusion. sure the uk did a lot of bad stuff but for every bad thing we did something good to compensate o-o; apart from the zulus. we pretty much just messed their shizz up good XD;

[TheBlackOut 7]

Vote for tougher immagration laws, wait with them being fruitful and that, they can't be stopped

Really if you wanna deal with the problem, immigration needs to stop period. From what I've read over in the happenings of the U.K, you guys are having tough times with housing. We are too - but not with the lack of it in the States. Really, if anything, vote on tougher deportation laws. Break a law or promote death to the country you're in and you're out of there. Hell a three strikes rule would be nice even. Less people doing nothing for your country and taking up room and making more babies is a bad thing.

 

We have immigration problems, but I like our immigrants (Mexicans). They work hard and try and learn English, plus I never heard one say "Death to America!"

 

an yah, england did take over most of the known world. but we advanced the world. we took on knowledge and spread it with the people we take over, we taught them things and made them better. we gave countries things from other countries that they had never seen before o.O and is most of the world speaking english a bad thing? it saves a lot of confusion. sure the uk did a lot of bad stuff but for every bad thing we did something good to compensate o-o; apart from the zulus. we pretty much just messed their shizz up good XD;

Now that's pretty arrogant to assume your culture and ways are better than theirs. While I agree - our ways are better (of course, biased!) - it doesn't necessarily mean they feel that way

[Gben 20]

The problem is England didn't just bring technology they brought culture, and forced everyone to convert to their obviously superior ways.

 

[TheBlackOut 7]

The problem is England didn't just bring technology they brought culture, and forced everyone to convert to their obviously superior ways.

I know this

[Gben 20]

I meant to refer my comment to mina. I was too lazy to edit it.

 

But let's add to ths conversation...

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I *love* the new signature Saracen - it's very disarming. I didn't realise anarch could be so cute and cuddly.

Edited July 23, 2008 by gben

[Mina Synd 0]

XD lawl... cute an cuddly. anyway... i'm not saying english culture is far superior... it's just for the most part, we're more reasonable. i mean there's no death sentence (might end up getting brought back sooner or later though) and when you get put in prison you get given access to satellite tv and basically all the comforts of home. a lot of criminals have it better then the lower class (i've heard stories of people causing shizz just to get arrested) but they really take no prisoners with sharia law o.o; a lot of the rules are fair and i happen to agree with but some of them are a tad over the top (stoning? hand chopping? pass...) and in today's world it's only acceptable women, children and other ethnic groups should be treated equal. try saying the same thing in a sharia law country. it's not a case of being superior it's a case of preference. i'd like to be able to wear what i want and act how i want (within reason). if someone loves sharia law they should stay in a country that has that law system, not move to another country and do whatever they can to impliment sharia law :\

 

an yah... they did bring culture. and a lot of it was pompous and over the top... but y'know, is it really all that bad? o.o apart from a few incidents like the zulus for the most part it was good... a lot of countries agreed with it. and obviously they must have liked it if a lot of those countries have only become seperate from the uk within the past 100 years o.O

[Saracen 16]

I *love* the new signature Saracen - it's very disarming. I didn't realise anarch could be so cute and cuddly.

 

Yeah, I thought it'd be a little more fitting than my previous one, I actually got it from this:

 

 

Which I will be attending, of course

[Mina Synd 0]

*sweatdrops* i've never heard "action" and "bookfair" in the same sentence...

[Luk3us 63]

rofl.. At a bookfair? Doesn't sound very, umm... Anarchist.

[TheBlackOut 7]

IT'S INTENSE LITERATURE KNOWLEDGE!!!

[Nmenth 291]

I assume all available books and other commodities will be free for the taking? Wouldn't want to promote money and greed...

Edited July 25, 2008 by Nmenth

[Gben 20]

I *love* the new signature Saracen - it's very disarming. I didn't realise anarch could be so cute and cuddly.

Yeah, I thought it'd be a little more fitting than my previous one, I actually got it from this:

Yeah the cat made me think you just need a catchy slogan and maybe a guest celebrity to endorse your social agenda. Then... hey presto... the world will be turned upside down.

 

Now, no need to thank me, but I searched out some possible candidates and worked on some slogans for you. I'm sure you can improve this... but hey you're not paying me (against the manifesto afterall) to spend too much time on this... so you'll just have to take what you can get.So anyway I started by searching REPUBLICAN celebrities (for that clean-cut all-american image) and then found this useful site...

http://www.allamericanspeakers.com

 

Which lead to these ideas...

 

Mr Huxtible could surely be a poster boy for you - I just couldn't remember/find any catch phrases?

 

how about evergreen celebrities?

 

Do you like em clean cut?

 

Or just one for the ladies?

 

I made some minor changes (in red) here - I think this guy works already

 

(to be continued due to number of image restrictions...)

 

 

[Gben 20]

I can't remember where this orientation fits in the new world order - but you'd be crazy to exclude the pink dollar!

 

Actually if you wanted a tv campaign - there are quite a few seasoned professionals you'd call on...

 

 

And even without a slogan - this guy can pull in a whole country by himself!

 

But I think the safest avenue - is the blonde blue eyed varierty!

 

Just promise me there is a stringent vetting process for the new order ok?

 

 

 

 

[Doctor Destiny 41]

Scuse me while I pour bleach into my eyes.

[Dr. Rodney McKay 0]

Excuse me while I watch Fahrenheit 9/11.