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Plokite_Wolf    144

ENTRY 24 - June 15th, 2013
RESIDUAL UNITS FROM TIBERIAN SUN BETA
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The Tiberian Sun beta builds had frequent appearances of units that were unbuildable in the final game. These included the returning Heavy Tanks and Mammoth Tanks, of which the latter found use in certain campaign missions as a Forgotten unit.

However, when digging through the final game's TIBSUN.mix file, one can stumble upon some residual units as well. These include:

  • Light tank (1TNK)
  • Medium tank (2TNK)
  • Heavy tank (3TNK)
  • Mammoth tank (4TNK) - used in campaigns
  • Artillery (ARTY) - different from the final
  • Flame tank (FTNK)
  • Longbow (HELI)
  • Hind (HIND)
  • APC (M113)
  • MLRS (MLRS)
  • Mine-layer (MNLY)
  • Mobile radar jammer (MRJ)
  • Probe (PROBE) - see previous C&C trivia entry
  • Chinook (TRAN) - wrong pallette
  • Devil's Tongue WIP (UTNK)

    All the mentioned units (except for the Mammoth tank) are without proper coding in TIBSUN.ini, but many of them have the necessary HVA files, as well as hull and turret voxels.

    More Tiberian Sun alpha and beta shots are available here.

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Plokite_Wolf    144

ENTRY 25 - June 16th, 2013
RESIDUAL TIBERIAN SUN AND BETA ELEMENTS IN RED ALERT 2 - PART 1
Similar to the previous entry, this is a list of all residual Tiberian Sun and beta TS and RA2 units found in Red Alert 2's RA2.mix file.

 

 

  • Light tank (1TNK)
  • Medium tank (2TNK)
  • Heavy tank (3TNK)
  • Mammoth tank (4TNK)
  • Apache (APACHE)
  • Amphibious APC (APC/APCW)
  • Artillery (ARTY) - different from the final
  • Tiberian Sun Artillery (ART2)
  • Attack Buggy (BGGY)
  • Attack Cycle (BIKE)
  • Train Cargo Car (CARGOCAR)
  • Red Alert 2 beta Paradrop Plane (CPLANE)
  • Drop Pod (DPOD)
  • Orca Dropship (DSHIP)
  • Unremappable beta Flak Cannon??? (FLAK)
  • Rocket cargo truck (FLATA)
  • Flying Fortress (FORTRESS)
  • Flame tank (FTNK)
  • Longbow (HELI)- wrong pallette
  • Hind Transport (HIND) - coded
  • Mammoth Mark II (HMEC)
  • Hover MLRS (HVR)
  • Howitzer (HWTZ) - coded
  • ICBM Launcher (ICBM)
  • Jeep (JEEP) - remade in YR
  • Mobile sensor array (LPST)
  • Red Alert 2 beta Light tank - coded, but overwritten by Lasher Light Tank in YR
  • APC (M113)
  • Chemical missile (MISLCHEM)
  • Multi-missile (MISLMLTI)
  • Orca missile (MISLORCA)
  • SAM missile (MISLSAM)
  • MLRS (MLRS)
  • Titan barrel (MMCHBARL)- rest was removed
  • Mine-layer (MNLY)
  • Monorail car (MONOCAR)
  • Monorail locomotive (MONOENG)
  • Mobile radar jammer (MRJ)
  • Orca Fighter (ORCA)
  • Orca Bomber (ORCAB)
  • Orca Transport (ORCATRAN)
  • Chrono Tank (PHAL)
  • Probe (PROBE) - see C&C trivia entry #23
  • EMP Cannon turret (PULSCAN)
  • Mobile repair vehicle (REPAIR)
  • Subterranean APC (SAPC)
  • Banshee (SCRIN)
  • Disruptor (SONIC)
  • Stealth Tank (STNK)
  • Tractor (TRACTOR) - unseen?
  • Chinook (TRAN) - wrong pallette
  • Orca Carry-all (TRNSPORT)
  • Tiberian Sun truck (TRUCK2)
  • Tiberian Sun truck (TRUK)
  • Devil's Tongue WIP (UTNK) - coding overwritten, but unused, in YR
  • Weed Eater (WEED)
  • Beta War Miner (WRMN)

 

 

I hope modders will get some use of this :)

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Plokite_Wolf    144

ENTRY 26 - June 18th, 2013
GENERALS MINI-GAMES
Between 2003 and 2010, two Generals universe mini-games were available on Pogo.
The first one was C&C: Attack Copter, in which one, obviously, played as the US Comanche in a retro gameplay style.



The second one was C&C: Armored Attack, in which one took the role of the US Paladin tank (note the pro-US bias ;) ), this time with more tactical elements like special powers that included paradrop and air strikes.



Unfortunately for those who would like to test them, Pogo discontinued them on 30 November 2010.
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Jehal    35

Kane Cruise? That's deep, and scary. :o

 

oh wat, I replied to an old post.

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Plokite_Wolf    144

ENTRY 27 - June 20th, 2013
RED ALERT 3 CHRONO TANK
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After the Chrono Tank in Aftermath and the scrapped Chrono Prison in Yuri's Revenge, EALA intended to give this idea another shot. The tank chassis is nearly identical to the one used for the Guardian Tank that made it to the final game and with the additional portable Chronosphere.

However, the other concept image puzzles me - the flash from the cannon is rather large for a standard cannon. If there was a gas tank behind the turret, I'd say this was a flame weapon.
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Plokite_Wolf    144

ENTRY 28 - June 22nd, 2013
SCRIN PHYSICAL APPEARANCE
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The Scrin were imagined by Westwood as a tall and slender humanoid species when Tiberian Incursion was still under development. Although their appearance was rather unusual (but not uncommon in sci-fi), they showed no resemblance to insects (if we ignore the TD/TS alien probe).

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Signs of humanoid Scrin were seen in Tiberian Sun as well, as the Scrin Ship interior was constructed with such species in mind, despite being constructed by Nod with the information from the Tacitus.

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Fast-forward to 2006: the Scrin were designed by EALA as a swarm of different insect and machine types, showing certain traces of culture in their characteristic glyphs, but maintaining an insect-like hierarchy. Lower life forms showed no signs of sentient behaviour, even though they acted in cohesion.

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The exception to this rule were the mysterious Supervisor and the Overlord. The former has shown only his head and the latter was only mentioned several times and spoke the last sentence in Tiberium Wars himself, but did not appear visually. They were the only Scrin beings known to think and act individually.

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Little is known, however, that EALA had plans of returning the humanoid Scrin and placing them alongside the insectoid ones in the cancelled Tiberium. To the left is the Intruder, a light-to-standard infantry unit, while on the right is the Archon, a heavy infantry unit.

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The left is the bizarre-looking Drudge, and the right is the Shrike, the basic Scrin infantry unit of the game that had a kamikaze attack.

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Plokite_Wolf    144

ENTRY 29 - June 23rd, 2013
SECRET BEHIND THE PSIONIC DECIMATOR
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Playing with full graphical details can show some barely visible Easter eggs. Did you know that the Psionic Decimator had clones of Yuriko Omega in chambers on its edges, from which the device gained all its power and abilities?

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Plokite_Wolf    144

ENTRY 30 - June 24th, 2013
TIBERIUM WARS SHIPYARD
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Naval vessels were seen on several occasions in Tiberium Wars and Kane's Wrath. However, this piece of concept art confirms that all those ships were originally intended to be buildable through Shipyards, which were cut during development.

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Plokite_Wolf    144

ENTRY 31 - June 25th, 2013
JUMP-JET INFANTRY IN TIBERIAN DAWN?
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According to concept art from 1995, Tiberian Dawn was to have jump-jet infantry that would use so-called aero packs, armed with 10 mm gatling guns and outfitted with infrared cameras and retracting legs.

The thread will not be updated in the next two days.

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Nyerguds    73

ENTRY 29 - June 23rd, 2013

SECRET BEHIND THE PSIONIC DECIMATOR

 

Playing with full graphical details can show some barely visible Easter eggs. Did you know that the Psionic Decimator had clones of Yuriko Omega in chambers on its edges, from which the device gained all its power and abilities?

Wow. THAT's pretty messed up :o

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MrFlibble    15

I've seen this, as well as other concept art scans, in the C&C Source Gallery some time ago. Whwre do they come from anyway? Some bonus DVD EA released?

 

Back to the scrapped Megan concept, am I right that in TS, they followed a more or less similar idea with Muntant Commandos: Umagon is a classic sniper much like the original Commando, while the Ghostalker has the C4 capability along with a more powerful, but slow firing weapon?

 

Also the the Ghostalker/Ghost Stalker (whichever is right I forgot) unit name might suggest that he was supposed to have some stealth capability - any real info on that?

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Plokite_Wolf    144

ENTRY 32 - June 28th, 2013


PARASITE TROOPER WAS WESTWOOD'S DESIGN
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This is a crop of a Phil Robb's multi-unit concept art piece, showing a jump jet infantry unit with insignia similar to Yuri's. It fits the description of the commonly used Parasite Trooper from various mods and indicates that the unit was actually Westwood's idea.

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Plokite_Wolf    144

ENTRY 33 - June 30th, 2013
TIBERIUM IN POPULAR CULTURE
According to EVA Database, Tiberium was referred to three times in popular culture.

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In SimCity 4, when placing industrial zones, an industry named "Kane Tiberium" will appear.

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In The Sims 3: World Adventures, Tiberium can be obtained in the form of a relic from Egypt, combining certain combinations of relics using a Carter's series display case, or breaking space rocks using the Board Breaker. It will start out as a small Spire Cut Tiberium that can be sold for 89 Simoleons, but within a single day, it will become a Large Spire Cut Tiberium worth 30.000 Simoleons. Leaving a Large Spire Cut Tiberium out on the lawn will spawn more Spire Cut Tiberium. Leaving a piece of Tiberium in a Sim's inventory for a while will give the Sim "Tiberium Poisoning", which drops the Sim's mood by 20, causes them to become very sick and vomit frequently.

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Lady GaGa's video for her single "Telephone" mentions Tiberium among the ingredients for a poison.

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Luk3us    63

See this is why Lady Gaga is ****ing crazy. :P

 

I didn't know about Tiberium being in the Sims... I might have to go create a Tibeium backyard. :P

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Gben    20

I think the SIM's reference is inaccurate as pop-culture reference; It should come under cross-promotion since they are both EA. Still nice though.

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Tiberium in a Sims game is unusual.

 

As for the last image, I'll never forget about that "one cup Tiberium". I started to become a fan of her around the time the C&C community went crazy when they watched the music video.

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