OCLSpecialPower problems

[Stygs 25]

Following from the other topic, I tried to make a simple dropzone with a pretty simpel idea:

 

The building has a special power and once the power finishes reloading, I use LUA to trigger the OCLSpecialPower. Since there was no target choosen, the OCL should use the center of the building as target. This has the advantage that I can use a simple UnitAbillityButton as a timer so players can see how much time is left before the next suply drop.

 

Exept it didnt work - The specialpower spawnt the Ox transports on top of the building and they just hover there, never landing or leaving. Initially I asumed that I used the wrong CreateLocation setting, but it doenst seem to make a difference. I could also use OCLUpdate to trigger the OCL, but I dont unterstand why the transport dont come from the map border.

 

		<OCLSpecialPower
				id="OCLSpecialPower_DeployIonStorm"
				SpecialPowerTemplate="SpecialPower_GDISupplyDrop"
				OCL="OCL_GDISupplyDrop"
				CreateLocation="CREATE_AT_EDGE_NEAR_TARGET_AND_MOVE_TO_LOCATION" />

    <SpecialPowerTemplate
        id="SpecialPower_GDISupplyDrop"
        ReloadTime="10s"
        TargetType="LOCATION">
    </SpecialPowerTemplate>

 

 

[PurpleGaga27 37]

Have you looked in C&C Generals 2 mod for C&C3? The Chinese modder who created it threw almost every idea from the original C&C Generals into C&C3, but I am not sure if a supply drop structure with a special ability existed there.

Edited February 4, 2016 by zocom7

[Egozi44 27]

While it may be the best to wait for Raven and megumi reply,

Let me just point that you don't must to use planes in gdi case for the drone zone but rather a pod

 

It more fit for the current gdi's style imo

And the pod can't miss the drop zone

 

 

 

Also what building you uses for the supply drop? I recall that structures like the armory have some script that not let the ox transport to land on it, or it was something else. . Don't remeber xD

Edited February 4, 2016 by Egozi44

[Ravendark 43]

While it may be the best to wait for Raven and megumi reply,

Let me just point that you don't must to use planes in gdi case for the drone zone but rather a pod

 

It more fit for the current gdi's style imo

And the pod can't miss the drop zone

 

 

 

Also what building you uses for the supply drop? I recall that structures like the armory have some script that not let the ox transport to land on it, or it was something else. . Don't remeber xD

For all he wants he can use a flying elephant that delivers the payload. It is his mod.

The pod won't miss because how the drop pods function and how a call for transport works is a night and day difference.

 

 

Also what building you uses for the supply drop? I recall that structures like the armory have some script that not let the ox transport to land on it, or it was something else. . Don't remeber xD

It is not structure related. 90% sure it is specialpower flag or OCL related that prevent something from spawning ontop of eachother.

 

 

for example:

 

<SpecialPowerTemplate
        id="SpecialPowerCallSupportBloodhound"
        Flags="NOT_CLIFF_CELL IS_PLAYER_POWER NO_FORBIDDEN_OBJECTS SHARED_SYNC"
        ReloadTime="180s"
         ForbiddenObjectRange="140"
        RadiusCursorRadius="140"
        TargetType="LOCATION"
        EvaEventToPlayWhenSelectingTarget="SelectSpecialPowerTarget"
        Money="-3000"
    InitiateAtLocationSound="GDI_Ox_VoiceReinforcements">
        <ForbiddenObjectFilter
            Rule="ANY"
            Include="STRUCTURE"
        />
        <GameDependency>
            <RequiredObject>GDIAirTower</RequiredObject>
        </GameDependency>
    </SpecialPowerTemplate>
 

Flags="NOT_CLIFF_CELL IS_PLAYER_POWER NO_FORBIDDEN_OBJECTS SHARED_SYNC"

+

 

<ForbiddenObjectFilter
            Rule="ANY"
            Include="STRUCTURE"
        />
 

prevent the specialpower from triggering ontop of "impassable" terrain.

 

Also TargetType= location might not work here, iirc you need to select a target/area manually for it to work. i would try with TargetType= NONE instead, that should fire the SP on itself.

 

also for the transport to fly in look at the OCL list for the bloodhounds

 

 

<ObjectCreationList
        id="OCL_CallSupportBloodhound">
        <CreateObject
            Options="IGNORE_ALL_OBJECTS DONT_SET_PRODUCER ISSUE_MOVE_AFTER_CREATION MOVE_USES_EVACUATE_AND_EXIT MOVE_TARGET_USES_OFFSET"
            Disposition="LIKE_EXISTING">
            <Offset
                x="42"
                y="42"
                z="100"></Offset>
            <CreateObject>GDIV35Ox_CallSupportBloodhound</CreateObject>
        </CreateObject>
 

MOVE_AFTER_CREATION lets it fly in

 

evacuate and exit makes it fly off map again after unload + the evacuate map behavior (iirc that what it is called)

 

I would try to build your supply drop after the bloodhound reinforcement power. You can have the payload of the transport be your money maker.

 

Im interested in such sort of effect for a while now, so ill prob look into it somemore. If you havent found a aswer by then and i have (knock on wood) il post my findings.

[Stygs 25]

The OCL is just a copy from the one that drops Riflemen and Missilemen, so its should not be a problem with the OCL itself.

"NONE" was my initial setting for the SP, I changed it after realizing it didnt work.

 

And no, DropPods feel overused. Not going to use any more of them in TWA.

Edited February 4, 2016 by Stygs

[Ravendark 43]

None and location have the same effect for me aswell. The ox just spawns ontop instead instead of flying from offscreen.

 

Edit: Im wondering if the ocl specialpower can't be triggered correctly like this, maybe it needs a player action and not a script action.

I even tried to use:

 

<ActivateModuleSpecialPower
                id="ModuleTag_ManipulatorDeviceUpdate"
                SpecialPowerTemplate="SpecialPower_SupplyDropDispatch"                                
                >
                <SpecialPowerModules
                    ModuleId="ModuleTag_CallSupply"
                    TriggerType="SELF_POSITION" />
            </ActivateModuleSpecialPower>
 

But it doesnt seem to want to be triggered from a Dospecialpower scipt.

 

Gonna have a look at unit specialabilities and see if that works better.

Edited February 4, 2016 by Ravendark

[Lauren 77]

Could you please post your ocl and spawned object too?

[Stygs 25]

	<ObjectCreationList
		id="OCL_GDISupplyDrop">
		<CreateObject
			Options="IGNORE_ALL_OBJECTS DONT_SET_PRODUCER ISSUE_MOVE_AFTER_CREATION MOVE_USES_EVACUATE_AND_EXIT MOVE_TARGET_USES_OFFSET"
			Disposition="LIKE_EXISTING">
			<Offset
				x="0"
				y="0"
				z="100" />
			<CreateObject>GDIV35Ox_SupplyDrop</CreateObject>
		</CreateObject>
	</ObjectCreationList>


    <GameObject
        id="GDIV35Ox_SupplyDrop"
        inheritFrom="GDIV35Ox_Summoned">
        <Behaviors>
            <HordeTransportContain
                xai:joinAction="Overwrite"
                id="ModuleTag_Contain"
                ObjectStatusOfContained="UNSELECTABLE"
                ContainMax="1"
                Slots="1"
                AllowEnemiesInside="false"
                AllowAlliesInside="false"
                AllowNeutralInside="false"
                AllowOwnPlayerInsideOverride="true"
                ShowPips="true"
                EnterSound="VehicleEnter"
                ExitSound="VehicleExit"
                KillPassengersOnDeath="true"
                FlyOffMapOnEmpty="true"
                ExtendedExitContainerChecks="true">
                <PassengerFilter
                    Rule="ANY"
                    Include="INFANTRY" />
                <DieMuxData
                    DeathTypes="ALL" />
                <PassengerData
                    BonePrefix="BONEGARRISON">
                    <Filter
                        Rule="ANY"
                        Include="INFANTRY" />
                </PassengerData>
                <InitialPayload
                    Name="GDIEngineer"
                    Count="1" />
            </HordeTransportContain>
        </Behaviors>
    </GameObject>

    <GameObject
        id="GDIV35Ox_Summoned"
        inheritFrom="GDIV35Ox"
        KindOf="PRELOAD CAN_CAST_REFLECTIONS SELECTABLE AIRCRAFT VEHICLE TRANSPORT SUMMONED NO_COLLIDE IGNORES_SELECT_ALL">
        <EquivalentTo>GDIV35Ox</EquivalentTo>
        <Behaviors>
            <HordeTransportContain
                xai:joinAction="Overwrite"
                id="ModuleTag_Contain"
                ObjectStatusOfContained="UNSELECTABLE ENCLOSED"
                ContainMax="1"
                Slots="1"
                AllowEnemiesInside="false"
                AllowAlliesInside="false"
                AllowNeutralInside="false"
                AllowOwnPlayerInsideOverride="true"
                ShowPips="true"
                EnterSound="VehicleEnter"
                ExitSound="VehicleExit"
                KillPassengersOnDeath="true"
                FlyOffMapOnEmpty="true"
                ExtendedExitContainerChecks="true">
                <PassengerFilter
                    Rule="NONE"
                    Include="INFANTRY" />
                <DieMuxData
                    DeathTypes="ALL" />
                <PassengerData
                    BonePrefix="BONEGARRISON">
                    <Filter
                        Rule="NONE"
                        Include="INFANTRY" />
                </PassengerData>
            </HordeTransportContain>
        </Behaviors>
        <AI>
            <TransportHelicopterAIUpdate
                xai:joinAction="Overwrite"
                id="ModuleTag_AI"
                FlyOffMapOnUnload="true"
                DelayAFterLoadingOrUnloading="0.5s">
                <UnitAITargetChooserData
                    SympathyRange="100.0" />
            </TransportHelicopterAIUpdate>
        </AI>
    </GameObject>

 

[Ravendark 43]

Progress!

 

Rending video proof as i type.

 

Will refine, update and share ofc. normaly in that order

 

Edited February 4, 2016 by Ravendark

[Ravendark 43]

Still a dirty version but it is starting to look like something.

 

 

I'll upload the code later on.

 

Edit: the coding. Honestly nothing special, hardest was getting the special power to trigger. Probably can be done better. As i said before its dirty and done fast. Feel free to improve alot on it tbh...god knows it needs cleaning up and tuning

 

http://pastebin.com/Nc0KHsLR

 

Ps: Although i am not really planning on using this for my own mod Stygs, i am probably using a version of this as a way to "build" my "orca's" from a helipad and having them fly in from off screen.

Edited February 5, 2016 by Ravendark

[Egozi44 27]

Dirty work

 

Look awesome

[ravage 9]

Still a dirty version but it is starting to look like something.

 

 

I'll upload the code later on.

 

Edit: the coding. Honestly nothing special, hardest was getting the special power to trigger. Probably can be done better. As i said before its dirty and done fast. Feel free to improve alot on it tbh...god knows it needs cleaning up and tuning

 

http://pastebin.com/Nc0KHsLR

 

Ps: Although i am not really planning on using this for my own mod Stygs, i am probably using a version of this as a way to "build" my "orca's" from a helipad and having them fly in from off screen.

 

hmm. copyed your code to a building but this OCLSpecialPower do not operates automatically? have to click the playerpower button everytime.

[PurpleGaga27 37]

Hmmm. I might try this in my new C&C3 expansion mod.

[Ravendark 43]

hmm. copyed your code to a building but this OCLSpecialPower do not operates automatically? have to click the playerpower button everytime.

I based what i posted on Stygs his problem. He already had the correct lua and modelevenconditions setup i expect so i didnt post those.

 

lua:

function onSupplydropready(self)
    ObjectDoSpecialPower ( self, "SpecialPowerDispatchSupplyDrop" )
end

eventlist:

<ModelConditionEvent Name="Supplydropready">
            <Conditions>+SPECIALPOWER1_READY</Conditions>
    </ModelConditionEvent>

    <EventList Name="SupplyDockBuildingFunctions" Inherit="BaseScriptFunctions">
        <EventHandler EventName="OnPowerOutage" ScriptFunctionName="onBuildingPowerOutage" DebugSingleStep="false"/>
        <EventHandler EventName="OnPowerRestore" ScriptFunctionName="onBuildingPowerRestored" DebugSingleStep="false"/>
        <EventHandler EventName="Supplydropready" ScriptFunctionName="onSupplydropready" DebugSingleStep="false"/>
    </EventList>

my conyards AI module:

<AI>
            <AIUpdate
                id="ModuleTag_AIUpdate"
                AutoAcquireEnemiesWhenIdle="NO"
                AILuaEventsList="SupplyDockBuildingFunctions"
            />
        </AI>

Also consider this all a explanation on how to do it, not a copy/paste ready solution. I added this to my own personal mod, which has a custom SIDE, an i test most my stuff on that side, hence the OSR_ tags on alot of the lines. I probably could do a easy implement version, but it would require to extract the code out of my stuff and rewrite it abit towards the gdi template abit more. I might do that over the weekend, maybe.

 

Also the SP triggers the firsttime the moment it is build, this is because i forgot to add

AvailableAtStart="false"

at the module below

 

<SpecialPower
                id="ModuleTag_DispatchRadarJammingMissile"
                AvailableAtStart="false"              /** forgot this part **/
                SpecialPowerTemplate="SpecialPowerDispatchSupplyDrop"
                UpdateModuleStartsAttack="true">
            </SpecialPower>
 

add that to have it wait for its reload time before firing the first time its build. Else it will fire the SP after building construction immediately .

Edited February 5, 2016 by Ravendark

[ravage 9]

I based what i posted on Stygs his problem. He already had the correct lua and modelevenconditions setup i expect so i didnt post those.

 

thanks! pity there is no codes like "AutoSpecialPower" and we have to relay on lua scripts.

[Stygs 25]

Hmmm. I might try this in my new C&C3 expansion mod.

 

Guess I should really stop asking questions here...

 

 

 

Anway:

 

Awsome work Ravendark

And of course you can use it, its mostly your code anyway

 

 

i am probably using a version of this as a way to "build" my "orca's" from a helipad and having them fly in from off screen

 

Sounds interesting - I am still looking for a way to build Nod Salamanders without them spawning inside the building, so I might play around with that myself.

 

 

Guess I actually have to finish the building model

Edited February 5, 2016 by Stygs

[Egozi44 27]

Guess I should really stop asking questions here...

 

You sure love to keep all the dark secrets of the universe to yourself aren't you

Edited February 5, 2016 by Egozi44

[Lauren 77]

thanks! pity there is no codes like "AutoSpecialPower" and we have to relay on lua scripts.

There was... in BFME. One could even toggle it. Edited February 5, 2016 by Lauren

[Ravendark 43]

There was... in BFME. One could even toggle it.

Autoabilitybehavior?

 

<xs:complexType name="Query">
        <xs:sequence>
            <xs:element name="ObjectFilter" type="ObjectFilter" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1" />
        </xs:sequence>
        <xs:attribute name="EMax" type="SageInt"  default="6" />
        <xs:attribute name="Value" type="SageInt"  default="-1" />
    </xs:complexType>
    <xs:complexType name="AutoAbilityBehaviorModuleData">
        <xs:complexContent>
            <xs:extension base="UpdateModuleData">
                <xs:sequence>
                    <xs:element name="Queries" type="Query" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="6" />
                </xs:sequence>
                <xs:attribute name="MaxScanRange" type="SageReal" default="1" />
                <xs:attribute name="MinScanRange" type="SageReal" default="0" />
                <xs:attribute name="Radius" type="SageReal" default="0" />
                <xs:attribute name="IdleSeconds" type="Time" default="0s" />
                <xs:attribute name="SpecialAbilityName" type="SpecialPowerTemplateRef" />
                <xs:attribute name="ForbiddenStatus" type="ObjectStatusBitFlags" />
                <xs:attribute name="StartsActive" type="SageBool" default="false" />
                <xs:attribute name="UseStartPosition" type="SageBool" default="false" />
                <xs:attribute name="AdjustAttackPos" type="SageBool" default="false" />
                <xs:attribute name="AllowSelf" type="SageBool" default="false" />
            </xs:extension>
        </xs:complexContent>
    </xs:complexType>

Iirc Madin was playing arround with that, can't remember if he had any progress but last i heared he was planning a funeral for that Module as it was assumed broken?

[ravage 9]

There was... in BFME. One could even toggle it.

 

you still have to right-click the buttons to activate that in BFME, and as i remember, the AutoAbilityBehavior works mostly with WeaponFireSpecialAbilityUpdate that require a target location. also i don't think C&C3's UI allow the right-click anymore:(

[Ravendark 43]

you still have to right-click the buttons to activate that in BFME, and as i remember, the AutoAbilityBehavior works mostly with WeaponFireSpecialAbilityUpdate that require a target location. also i don't think C&C3's UI allow the right-click anymore:(

it doesnt, think that was the problem Madin had with it

[Lauren 77]

you still have to right-click the buttons to activate that in BFME

That's what StartsActive is for.

it doesnt, think that was the problem Madin had with it

Exactly. Might even not work at all as StartsActive doesn't do anything anymore either. Edited February 5, 2016 by Lauren

[Stygs 25]

You sure love to keep all the dark secrets of the universe to yourself aren't you

 

Its not about secrets, its about having something unique in a mod. There is no point in asking for help with a cool idea if the idea get copied before I even tried the solution xD

[Egozi44 27]

I just joked around

 

What you said is true, but in this specific case I won't be surprise, it something that most c&c fans probably want to see and Raven said that the code is "nothing special" even when it unfinished, so I assume that eventually someone else will up come with it

 

Plus when we post something here we always risk the idea getting stolen (like when stupid little me post his xmls, which are nothing special to you guys but can be uses to modders that just start their ways/lazy people who want to get everything ready), but we need help because we crazy and only pm users will limit our chances in getting them from others (it not something new though eh eh xD )

Edited February 5, 2016 by Egozi44

[Lauren 77]

No xml is special, the options are very limited so as long as you know what you want it's usually very easy to achieve or to determine it to be impossible with the given toolset. Coming up with the idea of what you want to create is what it's about.

Edited February 6, 2016 by Lauren