C&C FPS Unofficially Confirmed

[hagren 0]

Sonic is right, and Saracen: Those floating Kane head concepts are for Generals, and Adam didnt even know those.

[sith_wampa 6]

Sonic is right, and Saracen: Those floating Kane head concepts are for Generals, and Adam didnt even know those.

 

WTF?

[mormreed 0]

but u gotta admit it would be pretty cool if they did advance the story in an fps game, and all the people who are amazing at RTS and no god at FPS would all piss and moan about not being able to beat the game so they don't get the story lol

[hagren 0]

Sonic is right, and Saracen: Those floating Kane head concepts are for Generals, and Adam didnt even know those.

 

WTF?

 

I take Saracen built his theory upon this picture.

 

We asked Adam about it and he replied that he never saw this concept before, while Cypher explained that its a pre-Generals concept image from WWP were they still were deciding which route to take with the game.

So floating head Kane is not original WW.

[Sonic 296]

That's the problem with all this concept art, people get the wrong impression from the pictures. Not all concept art is not something that got the chop, in this case this floating head Kane image is just an idea, one of the many that Westwood and Westwood Pacific (EA Pacific) went through before they started Generals.

 

I've got lots of concepts for CNCNZ.com, from test logos, layouts, colours and so forth. Stuff that will never see the light of day. But sometimes I go back and look for inspiration on future site designs and ideas etc....

 

Before jumping to conclusions some people should look up the word "concept" in the dictionary.

[rEdaSbLood 1]

concept:

 

1.a general notion or idea; conception.

 

2.an idea of something formed by mentally combining all its characteristics or particulars; a construct.

 

3.a directly conceived or intuited object of thought.

 

concept/conceptual art:

 

1.art that is intended to convey an idea or concept to the perceiver and need not involve the creation or appreciation of a traditional art object such as a painting or sculpture

[Louis EX 0]

So you believe EA should wipe out all the hard work of the APB team, and make a Red Alert FPS? I wouldn't agree with that at all. :roll:

I was thinking more of a Red Alert 3 thing? Not re-making the originals into a FPS game.

[fox34343 1]

So you believe EA should wipe out all the hard work of the APB team, and make a Red Alert FPS? I wouldn't agree with that at all. :roll:

I was thinking more of a Red Alert 3 thing? Not re-making the originals into a FPS game.

 

And, it's probably going to be a totally different kind of FPS game to Renegade! You can't say it'll ruin the work of the APB team when you have no idea how it will play! I mean just look at the countless numbers of WW2 games, that all exist together! Just because a game or mod follow a similar universe / story doesn't mean only one can survive!

[CCHyper 3]

Indeed. Though i still want Incursion!, But if you think of it... Tiberian Sun, in FPS style, with a campaign... think how awesome it would be...

[Gben 20]

As I said in the other thread, it would be easier to just retell a past game from the perspective of FPS. I mean lets be fair, it *was* cool in Renegade the first time you get killed by an obelisk of light and in that first mission where it cuts from the cgi island view of the C&C map, and morphs into FPD. When you got that atmosphere right it was cool the first time. When can lightening strike twice?

 

But I would like or prefer to see new fiction, for the current universe. I would like the franchise to go in a bold and new direction, through it's fiction. All they would need to do is take one unanswered question, and run with it.

 

I mean 'Clone Wars' animated series did it for Star Wars movies. A C&C FPS could really stimulate the interest in the next RTS when it's storylines are connected.

 

I would have been more satisfied to see them resolve the Cabal plot in FPS as an example. (Maybe someone should mod TRON2.0 into a Cabal infiltration story... ha! [Remembering that the initial C&C had those 3 noddies infiltrate EVA to take control of the ion cannon])

 

I think wasting time with a normal military shooter (aka Red Alert or Generals) is not what EA will do. I mean they already make those themselves ie BF2! MoH! At least with a SCI-Fi theme they can try to compete with other developers like Halo or UT or HL or Quake or... many others.

 

-gben

[rEdaSbLood 1]

i liked the Clone Wars series ..

 

anyways, i feel where you are coming from and i think the series has much potential in the FPS genre. they could even take a chapter from one of the games and make it into the story. for example, the events involving the scrin ship in TS.

 

for now these are only hopes. we should all be careful not to lead ourselves on as we did before TW was released, thinking it would be something else than what it actually turned out to be.

 

but hey, at least it will make for much discussion here :wink:

[Gben 20]

Well at the end of Westwood's C&C 3 Kane was able to acquire a new body.. (cos concepts show he was just a head in concept and the body that McNeil punctured was useless). And was able to acquire Scrin technology for time travel and pyschic powers. With this technology he believed he could go back in time after the 1st Red Alert War and reside in Russia for 10 years slowly focussing his abilities for Psychic domination.

 

He did this while working his way into Russian Government, and took on the name Yuri to cover his past from the previous war. Using Romanov as a puppet he would set out in his attempt to crush the Aliied forces to prevent the uprising of the Global defense Initiative. It obviously failed.

 

C&C 4 was to start with Kane presumed dead and missing permanently. Nod was disbanding (ala. Modern C&C 3). The Red Alert 2 war had kept the timeline the same but changed something enough for the 4th Tiberium war to be a little different. The question of how the events in C&C 4 turned out, would only be answered in the periodic transition between Red Alert 3 and Tiberian Dawn.

 

This has made me think how different RA would have been if instead of Einstein going back to remove Hitler, what if someone went back and removed Winston Churchill.

 

-gben

 

EDIT:

(I was going to say what if Kane went back to remove Churchill, but why would he??? Chaos Theory! Anyway, I made my original post more generic.)

[CCHyper 3]

Saracen (C&CKing?), where did you get that info? Thats quite in depth...

[Saracen 16]

It's just speculative theory. But my writing style is such that I like to write any ideas I have in "this is what will happen" fashion rather than a "what if" fashion. I like to give some depth to my theories as well instead of one sentence. I think it gives my ideas a believability factor.

 

I've just checked my PMs and it seems a few people here have asked my the same question. Gotta love my writing style

[CCHyper 3]

Ah, that explains it

 

Yea, your style is quite believable, maybe you should make fan sub-storys...

[Saracen 16]

I'm not really a fan fiction writer. I tried it about 5-6 years ago, and it kept being inconsistent to the point where it never made sense.

 

OK, my style and writing skill has improved significantly, and I now actually bother to proof read my stuff. But I'm not really passionate enough to give it a go again. The appeal isn't really there.

 

In all honesty, I prefer to write reviews of games. They're short, and I can keep everything short and to the point. You may have seen it already, but I've written a Universe at War Preview, and people love it. Although I can't see why, it's not one of my best pieces.

 

I've also received an offer to join the team at the new gaming magazine site Gaming Evolution, which launches in in just over 2 days. They want me to become a game journalist there. And if the site takes off, they're looking to go professional with corporate advertisement and sponsorship deals, which means monetary payments for my work.

 

Right now though, I've had to decline the offer since my duty is with Petro-Gamers. That's where I plan to stay for many years to come. The only way I'm going to become a reviewer, is if a bigger gaming mag like IGN or PC Gamer shows some interest. But I know that's not gonna happen. so it's all good

[rEdaSbLood 1]

still, is there a site that has the full canonical story of CnC?

 

and yea Saracen your theory makes some sense, considering how Kane disappeared in certain points in the CnC timeline. maybe that is when he time traveled.

[CCHyper 3]

Yea, Check PlanetC&C. Cypher has hes cannon up on there, and some new guy posted a HUGE one not too long ago aswell...

[sith_wampa 6]

still, is there a site that has the full canonical story of CnC?

 

I found this a while ago.

[CCHyper 3]

Im pretty sure that has something to do with Cyphers and the PCNC one. Cypher and Adam Isgreen talked a lot about the C&C story, that is why Cypher wrote one up.