cnc_sage 0 Posted November 20, 2005 some time i wish i could live a little mountain village in China or someplace... be pretty nice actually. Cept for no C&C Me too. If I can take my computer with me. Share this post Link to post
TheBlackOut 7 Posted November 20, 2005 some time i wish i could live a little mountain village in China or someplace... be pretty nice actually. Cept for no C&C Me too. If I can take my computer with me. 1. Bird Flu 2. No Electricity in a small village. 3. They're commies. I don't like commies. Share this post Link to post
cnc_sage 0 Posted November 20, 2005 Oh, well... I always wanted to see the Great Wall... Share this post Link to post
Doctor Destiny 41 Posted November 20, 2005 I was half joking in mine (hence the ":wink:" - pick up on those clues. They help.), but essentially, yes. How is Americanization "regression?" Think carefully about that. It really couldn't be any more wrong. I missed the ";)". It happens. Anywho, I was referring more towards the direction our culture has taken. It's reverting back into the 50s when everything not "good and wholesome" was evil. Share this post Link to post
Saracen 16 Posted November 20, 2005 Anywho, I was referring more towards the direction our culture has taken. It's reverting back into the 50s when everything not "good and wholesome" was evil. In terms of culture, that statement is true across the world. Political Correctness is at an all time high. The best example is that many parents can't take pictures of their own children these days without being branded a paedophile. British culture can reflect that statement as well, healthy eating is such a big fad at the moment. Salt used to be good for you, then they said to cut down on it completely (where possible) cos it causes cancer, then they say, "6 grams a day is the max intake"... Now there's extra nutrition tables on our food boxes and everything, it's an obsession that I find sickening... who gives a crap what's in your food, you only live once, when ya times up, that's cool, I'll go out rocking! Share this post Link to post
BWare 0 Posted November 20, 2005 Go out rocking... like in a rocking chair King? :lol: But Fenring, I would argue that the wholesome 50s beat the hell out of the debauchery of the Romans, for instance. I'd say that's a far worse regression. Plus, I think that yes, everything not "good and wholesome" is, in fact, evil. They're opposites, so...... Share this post Link to post
VampireA05 0 Posted November 20, 2005 Malaysian (Asian) coming through... Share this post Link to post
Alphabear 11 Posted November 21, 2005 Are you sure destorying peoples culture and history is considered progression? Share this post Link to post
BWare 0 Posted November 21, 2005 think you're being a little melodramatic there, Alphabear? :roll: Share this post Link to post
Alphabear 11 Posted November 21, 2005 maybe just a little but its still a valid point. Prior to the start of the Iraq war an American General said publicly that in a few months he would be sitting in Bagdad eating a Big Mac. I know the war wasnt just so McDonalds and other american multinations could sell products in Iraq but it may have influenced the decision. Proof that this happens is when the CIA assasinated a democraticly elected communist leader in chile because they didnt want to give foreign companies access to copper mines. Anyway theres really not much point to me arguing this as Americans wont be able to be convinced because they live in America Share this post Link to post
BWare 0 Posted November 21, 2005 Do you allow no room for the language of generals? They're not politicians. They're supposed to be like that :roll: Even you have to admit that Iraq could use some Americanization. Remeber what it used to be like? Yeah. And the Chili thing... ugh. The leader was dangerous, but yes, that was more likely than not a mistake. We're allowed mistakes, and I'd say that was pretty atypical when you consider America's track record. So... how about allowing us to be mortal, huh? Plus, the guy was a commie, so... Oh, and when a people's "culture" allows for terrorism to flourish and the horrible evils that went on in Iraq prior to its liberation (rape rooms, torture, mass graves, brutalization of women, etc), I'd say that yes, their "culture" needs to be destroyed. Share this post Link to post
Mr_Lee_ 0 Posted November 21, 2005 Culture based on terrorism and rape = Vikings. Share this post Link to post
TheBlackOut 7 Posted November 21, 2005 Culture based on terrorism and rape = Vikings. I never looked at the Vikings that way but yeah, that was their culture now that I think about it... Share this post Link to post
BWare 0 Posted November 21, 2005 Sure, and guess what changed them? That's right, Christianity. Funny you should mention that, because I'm a direct descendant of Eric the Red and Lief Ericson... That was a very long time ago... but still today, the Muslim nations have gotten away with keeping that archaic and evil culture in place. I'd say it's about time they were modernized, wouldn't you? Rape rooms, torture, and mass graves are so last century :wink: I really don't see how some folks can stand these modern day barbarians... and they call themselves "progressives!" :roll: Share this post Link to post
GeneralZ 0 Posted November 21, 2005 Islam has a really really bad human rights record. they will stone and group rape woman cause her brother did something bad or for doeing something thats not even a crime by normal standards. thats why shariah or islamic law is crap and they are complete idiots. and yes i calling muslims who follow shariah complete idiots and morons Share this post Link to post
Doctor Destiny 41 Posted November 22, 2005 But Fenring, I would argue that the wholesome 50s beat the hell out of the debauchery of the Romans, for instance. I'd say that's a far worse regression. In some regards, sure but not enough. Besides, orgies kick ass. Plus, I think that yes, everything not "good and wholesome" is, in fact, evil. They're opposites, so...... Just because something isn't deemed "good and wholesome" doesn't mean it's evil. A classic example: masturbation. It's not deemed as "good and wholesome" but I would hardly call it evil. Now there's extra nutrition tables on our food boxes and everything, it's an obsession that I find sickening... who gives a crap what's in your food, you only live once, when ya times up, that's cool, I'll go out rocking! Finally. Someone with my point of view. Share this post Link to post
Alphabear 11 Posted November 22, 2005 Im not saying that Iraqs culture was good but forceing a country to Americanise is the worst thing possible. It is forceing a culture that is by no means perfect onto people that may be happy with the culture they have. Forceing them to change to a culture that they may not have wanted or wernt ready for is just going to make them hate America even more. Also just because the leader of chile was a communist does not automaticly make him bad either. The communist government there was the first TRUE communist government, not the Left Wing Nationalist governments that are police states that censor everything. Share this post Link to post
Cygnus X-1 12 Posted November 22, 2005 Sure, and guess what changed them? That's right, Christianity. Funny you should mention that, because I'm a direct descendant of Eric the Red and Lief Ericson... You must be related (somehow) to Noah Mitchel then. Cause he's a decendant of theirs too..... There is nothing wrong with American culture overruning Islamic cultures that are as abd as some are. Like the lones mentioned. BTW my comment on a small isolated Chinese village--means to get away from it all and live simply for a while. Not neccessarily in China or whatnot, but you get the idea. Share this post Link to post
TheBlackOut 7 Posted November 22, 2005 Im not saying that Iraqs culture was good but forceing a country to Americanise is the worst thing possible. It is forceing a culture that is by no means perfect onto people that may be happy with the culture they have. Forceing them to change to a culture that they may not have wanted or wernt ready for is just going to make them hate America even more. Also just because the leader of chile was a communist does not automaticly make him bad either. The communist government there was the first TRUE communist government, not the Left Wing Nationalist governments that are police states that censor everything. Only thing is the only ones complaining about the Americanization in Iraq are al-quada and the supporters of Hussien. Share this post Link to post
BWare 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Im not saying that Iraqs culture was good but forceing a country to Americanise is the worst thing possible. It is forceing a culture that is by no means perfect onto people that may be happy with the culture they have. Forceing them to change to a culture that they may not have wanted or wernt ready for is just going to make them hate America even more. Also just because the leader of chile was a communist does not automaticly make him bad either. The communist government there was the first TRUE communist government, not the Left Wing Nationalist governments that are police states that censor everything. People "happy with the culture they have?" What is wrong with you? The Nazis were happy with their "culture." So were the Soviets, and so are the Muslim terrorists and oppressive regimes. Is their happiness sound rationalization for their evil??? And yes, a communist leader is always dangerous, period. Communism can't possibly work, so communist systems, no matter how benevolent their intentions, always spiral completely out of control. Share this post Link to post
Alphabear 11 Posted November 22, 2005 There is no reason why true communist nations cannot work. The problem is that the true communist countries were destroyed by America WW2 was not because of the NAZIs culture, it was because NAZI germany invaded poland. It was also Germany that started that war. The Soviets were also outwards aggressive. Also critisizing islamic culture claimingthat western culture is better because it is not evil dosnt make sence. Statistic show that Western culture has higher crime, rape and murder rates than any other culture. I do like Western Culture but i dont beleive it is perfect as no culture is better than any other so i dont want to start an argument on which culture is better. Share this post Link to post
Saracen 16 Posted November 22, 2005 WW2 was not because of the NAZIs culture, it was because NAZI germany invaded poland. It was also Germany that started that war. Sorry, but I have to correct you...Germany's invaision of Poland was a catalyst to the start WW2. The British actually declared and started WW2. :wink: Share this post Link to post
TheBlackOut 7 Posted November 22, 2005 WW2 was not because of the NAZIs culture, it was because NAZI germany invaded poland. It was also Germany that started that war. Sorry, but I have to correct you...Germany's invaision of Poland was a catalyst to the start WW2. The British actually declared and started WW2. :wink: France and Britain declared war on Germany when they invaded Poland. Really, France and Britain caused it like C&C King said. Though it was called the phony war since Germany took France so easily. Share this post Link to post
BWare 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Also critisizing islamic culture claimingthat western culture is better because it is not evil dosnt make sence. Statistic show that Western culture has higher crime, rape and murder rates than any other culture. Are you serious? Tell me something- are murders by the government, torture, rape, oppression of women, or terrorism included in those "statistics" of yours? I'm pretty sure that they're the only culture out there who would condone the slaughter of 3,000 innocent men, women, and children in a suicide attack (I know you libs have very, very short term memory, but I'll help you out). And don't start with "OMG it wuz a few extremists lolz!!!11!" Those animals were dancing in the streets while the civilized western world was mourning with us. Maybe some of you were dancing as well, but I can't be sure of that. :roll: Dude, you need to open your eyes. You're so blindly buying into the liberal propaganda that it's just disgusting. :roll: There is no reason why true communist nations cannot work. The problem is that the true communist countries were destroyed by America HAHAHA!! :rofl: Oh that's just adorable... there are still some commie idealists out there! That mixed with hatred for America... it's just classic :roll: Share this post Link to post