do you believe in magic??

[Alphabear 11]

so my question is to you guys is, if something only exists in one's/many's imagination-does it exist at all

 

That depends on your definition of exist. If you take it as meaning to real in the physical sence then no, but as you said it "something only exists in one's/many's imagination." Therefore it does exist just not in the physical world.

[rEdaSbLood 1]

EXACTLY ALPHA BEAR...

 

redasblood, no. Absolutely not.

LMAO haha your back....havent seen you post in a while....

 

alphabear got what i was trying to say :wink:

 

also, some consider love, luck, and others to be majic itself if not somewhat related

[Luk3us 63]

Existince can be explained in one very simple sentence dear people..

 

I think therefore you are.

[BWare 0]

redasblood, no. Absolutely not.

LMAO haha your back....havent seen you post in a while....

 

alphabear got what i was trying to say :wink:

 

also, some consider love, luck, and others to be majic itself if not somewhat related

Good to be back :wink:

 

Yeah, I kinda see what you're saying... but for heaven's sake, let's use the actual definition of "exist," k?

 

ex·ist P Pronunciation Key (g-zst)

intr.v. ex·ist·ed, ex·ist·ing, ex·ists

To have actual being; be real.

To have life; live: one of the worst actors that ever existed.

To live at a minimal level; subsist: barely enough income on which to exist.

To continue to be; persist: old customs that still exist in rural areas.

To be present under certain circumstances or in a specified place; occur: “Wealth and poverty exist in every demographic category” (Thomas G. Exter).

There. If it only "exists" in your head, then no, it doesn't actually exist :roll:

[rEdaSbLood 1]

yea i kno..but for arguement sake:

 

To continue to be; persist: old customs that still exist in rural areas.

To be present under certain circumstances or in a specified place; occur

 

customs? customs are materialized ideas...

 

and magic is present under the circumstance that people believe in it, and that it lives in a "specified place".....

 

8) this is so pointless....dont mind me

[Acerz492 1]

I think therefore you are. :wink:

 

So very true.

 

Magic? Meh... that's an interesting question. I'd say short answer no, but long answer, there is a spiritual side to things... something that could be considered "magical." But for all intents and purposes, "magic" is more often than not a complete joke.

 

And more often than not, there are some hippies out there who will (try to) tell you otherwise.

[Cygnus X-1 12]

See the Matrix (1st one) to further confuse you, if you are already 8)

 

if it exists in your imagination, thats fine. How do you think C.S. Lewis, J.R.R. Tolkien, R.A. Salvator, E.E. Knight, Jack London, and countless others created what they did?

 

They sure didnt read about it in a book first :wink:

 

Now if you let it consume you and drive your everyday life, then you are considered a lunatic, or insane. Once you loose that fine line between reality and illusion, then your mind is as good as gone.

[rEdaSbLood 1]

thank u cyg....and acerz n everyone else...bite me...

[Acerz492 1]

Hey, I never said -you- were stupid dude. It's just the whole concept of believing in something which dosen't exist that's stupid. You can believe it if ya want, but I'm still gunna think it's silly.

[Cygnus X-1 12]

RABL - I think you brought up some good points on the other side of the river (argument) just because a person may stand behind one belief or another, doesnt make that person stupid for it.

 

Im not saying you are a magician ( :roll: ) but you brought up some good points. BWare just likes to shoot everything down :wink:

[BWare 0]

BWare just likes to shoot everything down :wink:

Hey! Well, sometimes it can be fun...

 

Seriously though, it's probably mostly because I have little tolerance for stuff like that which I see as silly and pointless. When a topic like this is so incredibly dependent on your own consciousness, what good is it really? Your consciousness is a nearly physical thing which can be damaged or flawed, so it's not good to base too much on it. Plus, when asking if something in your imagination is real or not, there is a simple and quick answer. No. It isn't "gunning redasblood down," it's just answering a question! Come on now! :wink:

[rEdaSbLood 1]

yes...

 

dam rite that i'll shoot rite bak up

 

cuz i keep it red as blood.......lmao

[Acerz492 1]

Just don't turn it into a big flame war, guys. :wink:

[rEdaSbLood 1]

BWare knows better to gun me down 8) :lol:

 

plus, im not going to get mad just because BWare thinks different...

 

anyways im right..........hehe...........

 

you know...i respect BWare and all that w/e.....i think he's just so logical though..there isn't much instinctual, creative, and artistic qualities in BWare's ideas or beliefs....at least from the objections he's made so far in this forum that i've observed

[VampireA05 0]

that serious??

[Acerz492 1]

i think he's just so logical though..there isn't much instinctual, creative, and artistic qualities in BWare's ideas or beliefs....at least from the objections he's made so far in this forum that i've observed

 

Just because "there isn't much instinctual, creative, and artistic qualities in BWare's ideas or beliefs", dosen't mean to say that there is anything wrong with his statements.

[BWare 0]

Aw, thanks Acerz!

 

Yeah, I do purposefully try to separate those things, which can be so subjective and misleading, from my thinking. It's not to say that I'm not sensitive to them- I just don't let them determine too much. A big reason for this is all the science training I'm going through now... you need volumes of evidence to support anything! Feelings don't get you very far with those folks :wink:

[Acerz492 1]

^ What he said.

 

My input:

 

Well hey, it's common sense right?

[Cygnus X-1 12]

If you two will be so kind as to remember that common sense has been in very short supply around the globe since the dinosaurs were killed by a meteor/volcano/ice age/aliens/mutations/evolution/Bob. :wink:

 

 

 

Magic - believe in it if you like, but dont subjugate others to those beleifs if they dont want to "join in the fun"

[rEdaSbLood 1]

yea

 

and i never said his points held any lesser credibility....or w/e

 

just said, he's like a "scientist," which is good lol cuz thats what he's aiming at rite?

[Cygnus X-1 12]

yes, he's working on his Bio major stuff (or along those lines anyway)

 

Personally, I like just a little more flexibility, or openess, but overall, follow BWare's stand on things.

 

But not as outspoken or hyped up about those who believe otherwise.

[Acerz492 1]

But not as outspoken or hyped up about those who believe otherwise.

 

You say that like it's a bad thing. There isn't anything wrong with a little debate every now and then.

[Cygnus X-1 12]

Technically, I said it, not BWare :wink:

 

I never intended it to sound like it was a bad thing. Allow me to rephrase

 

In general, I support everythign BWare stands for, but I dont defend my points as energetically as he does. He has a lot to say, and strongly believes that if you havent heard it yet, you need to and seriously consider all aspects before jumping over the fence.

 

I'm more at ease with letting people believe what they believe, but everynow and then, when an issue strikes a nerve, you will (and have) hear/heard from me.

[rEdaSbLood 1]

we all know that no one has problems with people's opinions....its just how some go about it that starts trouble....

 

BWare may sound condescending some times, but others put themselves into a position that calls for condescension...

 

blah

 

blahblah, but blagh blah hahah blah

[BWare 0]

BWare may sound condescending some times, but others put themselves into a position that calls for condescension...

Honestly, I don't try to be and I don't think I am at all. What comes across as condescending is probably how short I get with people that are unthinking in their obnoxious points of view... I get sarcastic, and that may come across as condescension. I don't mean, to, but hey... come on, you've seen some of the people on here :wink:

 

But yes, for the record I do respect all thoughtful points of view. I can peaceably agree to disagree, but don't expect me to respect "omg bush iz a nazi lolz!!!11!! Ur dum an so is ur mother!!!11!!"