Conspiracy!

[Mina Synd 0]

well i'm not agreeing but i'm not gonna start another argument over it xD

 

i'm not saying anyone in power should assume that mindset, as we've seen that is very dangerous. but my point is that something like that can't be defeated by say, killing the people in charge or the ones who planned it... because it's an ideal. there will always be someone out there who is willing to pick up the flag and continue...

 

trying to defeat that would require eradicating everyone who agrees with that side of thought, and continuing to do that everytime someone starts it up again. a war on terrorism could never work XD it's not even a war on ONE terrorist faction XDDD

 

i mean heck, at one point in time every country has been counted as a "terrorist" o.o; america, england... remembering that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. yes - the american secret services screwed over afghanistan at the end of the soviet occupation.

 

but it doesn't matter if the resulting terrorists actually committed that massacre on 9/11, at the end of the day they claimed up for it. if they did it or not, they screwed themselves over. and thanks to global views, they've dragged down the worldwide view on america with it o-o;;

 

but skipping away from that, the big conspiracy of the moment is what the hell is happening to global economy and why aren't the people who -can- fix it, doing anything? i don't know about other countries but the UK is in a -deep- recession, far worse then was first thought. a lot of century old shopping chains have started closing down (woolworths for instance :\ ) and around christmas prices were dropped as low as 90% off on some items in shops. but no-one had any money to buy anything o.o;

 

methinks you guys might wanna keep watch on this situation... cos if it gets worse things could deteriorate quite badly. could result in all the brits on here you know losing their internets, could end up with countrywide riots...

[BlyTwo 0]

I suppose, as long as BlyTwo is still waving his white flag of laziness.

Trust me, you don't want me to come back, because i will come back with a grand army to trample your tree fort. You don't want me to come back and fix my mix ups and reinforce my swearing spaz (which was actually meant to be a joke! So the ban was unexpected...) I have a lot more crap to serve. I laugh reading all your small minded blabbing about this that and the other thing, I started this, DD didn't have to carry it on... I'll just wait and watch from my safe location as you all scramble like ants out of a destroyed nest looking for somewhere to go once the Central Bank unifies the world, which has already begun: The European Union was formed recently and the release of the Euro, and there have been more continental unions, and very soon to be the North American union which will be followed by the Amero, and once all the uni9ons are formed it will start fusing into the one world government which will allow a thousand times more power in one location than is Globally safe. And what happens then? We can only hope it remains n our nightmares.

There is more at stake that just who 'Killed' the Trade Centers... (metaphorically speaking) It is why, and it is all the more reason to point at terrorists. Adolf Hitler did the same thing, their enemies were terrorists, so they would willingly fight for whatever reason, under that Genius control. The most brilliant way to control someone: mess with their heads. One thing I will not fall for. That separates noticeably the strong minds from the weak. A small child wanting everything the he/she sees on TV is a strongly noticeable example of an absolute weak mind. Waiting to be told what should be done, is exactly what you are being turned into, you are getting the weak mind of an infant. I will not say anymore, I'll simply watch what influenced ideas you come up with next. What a destroyed existence to be one of billions of puppets of the world.

 

The next great depression is showing it's nose around the corner, it will gain all the more power to the Central bank and the ones behind what was going on.

 

The government, CIA, whoever, their sudden hush on the situation, all of the big situations in fact including the pentagon and the supposed failed Whitehouse incident concludes their guilt and basically is like having an unlocked door that say "Whatever you do, DO NOT OPEN THIS DOOR" is begging to for someone just to take a look in curiosity and people spread the word. On the other hand if they had covered that door and disguised it as wall, no one would have noticed it, their own fault in their plan slapped them in the face. Some people are too smart to believe that a plane somehow gotten around a hotel, and come straight into the bottom floor, and then completely pulverize the plane into holdable pieces, when planes don't shred up like that, and yet they say they had DNA. Wait, so there was enough head and force to incinerate the plane, but yet there is still intact tissue? No. That doesn't fly. Something else, the people staying at the hotel were sworn to secrecy. And the plane that supposedly crashed in the farmland heading toward the Whitehouse. There was no plane, it looked like a big hole dug up then charred with a wood fire. There is something going on there, and it all has to do with the primary goal, control over the world.

 

All of you enjoy being turned into mindless zombies!

Edited January 1, 2009 by BlyTwo

[Mina Synd 0]

...lul... those conspiracies are SO FREAKING OLD bly xD

 

seriously. for starters the european union was formed back in the 80's. trust me on this one. thatcher and the miners XD it's really not a new thing. aaaand the amero conspiracy? sure it may happen. but not like that xD i commented on this months ago. the amero coin was a parody released by daniel carr. he made lots of different types of coins for his DC website xDDDD

 

and that is not a new thing either. starting with the book, the case of the amero back in 1999... now the way the bank situations are heading now it's possible something like this may happen. america isn't doing -too- badly economically compared to some other countries lately. the uk sure as hell ain't gonna take up the amero. euro maybe, but there will be riots if it happens oO;

 

i somewhat doubt that america and canada would share currency with mexico. last time i checked their economical status was dodgy at best. heck i can't see why canada would get involved at all - they are doing just fine o.O

 

if you are gonna get involved with conspiracy theories, at least try to keep up with the times. if you wanna talk about an orwellian future, look into FEMA. look into the strangely massively oversized max prisons around america, look at the strange military bases in the middle of nowhere that resemble concentration camps and are being maintained yet serve no apparent purpose.

 

look into the fact that if a national emergency is declared, FEMA has the power to bring in their own military forces made up of soldiers from other countries, and the fact that they have the right to take whatever they want from whoever they want, and have the ability to force pretty much anyone they want into forced labour in "holding centres"

 

heck screw the amero. that's the least of your worries xD

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Seems to fit this thread well

[sith_wampa 6]

Its Bly

[BlyTwo 0]

Don't waste people's time with mindless insults, finding a person that look like they have mental issues and saying it is someone. I've heard terrible insults just like that in elementary school.

 

And the Amero being the least of our worries, it is a symbol to what is coming, and it is NOT a parody.

 

You have no possible idea how many things there are to worry about on a daily basis, Do you have any idea what the Bermuda Triangle is? Do you understand where the Atlantis story came from? Do you know the true history of our planet, what has past, and what is yet to come? You have no idea what is dealt with day-in and day-out. There is more hidden from you than you than you could possibly imagine, so don't talk to me about Area 51, or outposts in the middle of nowhere...

There is technology hidden from the average population that would be considered science fiction based on 600 years from now.

[Nmenth 291]

There is technology hidden from the average population that would be considered science fiction based on 600 years from now.

Of course you wouldn't produce any evidence of this because 'they' would find you...

[Fiesta 0]

Ha-HA! Excellent. I was getting bored.

 

Trust me, you don't want me to come back, because i will come back with a grand army to trample your tree fort. You don't want me to come back and fix my mix ups and reinforce my swearing spaz (which was actually meant to be a joke! So the ban was unexpected...) I have a lot more crap to serve. I laugh reading all your small minded blabbing about this that and the other thing, I started this, DD didn't have to carry it on...

 

Bark without bite. Bring on your guns, I'll readily deflect anything you shoot because you're just full of crap, and I'll have fun doing it. I even have a new ultra-quiet keyboard so I don't annoy myself with loud typing while I'm having fun.

 

I'll just wait and watch from my safe location as you all scramble like ants out of a destroyed nest looking for somewhere to go once the Central Bank unifies the world, which has already begun: The European Union was formed recently and the release of the Euro, and there have been more continental unions, and very soon to be the North American union which will be followed by the Amero, and once all the uni9ons are formed it will start fusing into the one world government which will allow a thousand times more power in one location than is Globally safe. And what happens then? We can only hope it remains n our nightmares.

 

This all fits right up there with Ron Howard's mind control tricks.

 

There is more at stake that just who 'Killed' the Trade Centers... (metaphorically speaking) It is why, and it is all the more reason to point at terrorists. Adolf Hitler did the same thing, their enemies were terrorists, so they would willingly fight for whatever reason, under that Genius control.

 

Oh, so you think the same thing happened in the Bush administration following the attacks as did with the Nazi party during their invasion of Poland? Swing and a miss. Have you forgotten that Iraq wasn't the only country with which we went to war despite not having a reason? Have you forgotten North Korea and Vietnam? Maybe they were results of conspiracies, too. Or maybe just outright stupidity... which appears to follow through to this day with Iraq. If you're blind to this trend, I'm not sorry.

 

The most brilliant way to control someone: mess with their heads. One thing I will not fall for. That separates noticeably the strong minds from the weak. A small child wanting everything the he/she sees on TV is a strongly noticeable example of an absolute weak mind. Waiting to be told what should be done, is exactly what you are being turned into, you are getting the weak mind of an infant. I will not say anymore, I'll simply watch what influenced ideas you come up with next. What a destroyed existence to be one of billions of puppets of the world.

 

Ohh, the same way your mind was warped by baseless, biased crap like Zeitgeist and Loose Change? Tool. Enjoy the destroyed puppet existence, a part of which you deny being.

 

The next great depression is showing it's nose around the corner, it will gain all the more power to the Central bank and the ones behind what was going on.

 

So... our great depression will benefit Muslim extremists? Sure, sport. That's totally the correct mindset. >_>

 

The government, CIA, whoever, their sudden hush on the situation, all of the big situations in fact including the pentagon and the supposed failed Whitehouse incident concludes their guilt and basically is like having an unlocked door that say "Whatever you do, DO NOT OPEN THIS DOOR" is begging to for someone just to take a look in curiosity and people spread the word. On the other hand if they had covered that door and disguised it as wall, no one would have noticed it, their own fault in their plan slapped them in the face.

 

It was already explained before; the very fact that you can access that information without punishment is proof against theories. If they wanted a conspiracy to go unnoticed, they wouldn't do such a sloppy job with it.

 

Some people are too smart to believe that a plane somehow gotten around a hotel, and come straight into the bottom floor, and then completely pulverize the plane into holdable pieces, when planes don't shred up like that, and yet they say they had DNA. Wait, so there was enough head and force to incinerate the plane, but yet there is still intact tissue? No. That doesn't fly.

 

Some people, maybe terrorists, are smart enough to take advantage of security teams' inexperience and slip a plane into a 3rd building amidst the chaos that is being given all the focus, that being the WTC towers. ALL passengers and crew but one were successfully identified through methods you obviously haven't considered as your idea of forensics technology is 30 years behind. What makes you think going around a hotel makes a difference as to how close a plane is being allowed to fly to a building?

 

Quote from loosechangeguide.com;

 

What sort of schooling have you received that's led you to believe that an airplane striking a reinforced concrete building at over 500 mph isn't going to break into small pieces?

 

That's a serious question, by the way.

 

Holdable pieces? Maybe by several people. Ignoring the proof in the following images that a 757 crashed into the Pentagon is evidence of voluntary, self-inflicted head trauma:

 

 

Something else, the people staying at the hotel were sworn to secrecy. And the plane that supposedly crashed in the farmland heading toward the Whitehouse. There was no plane, it looked like a big hole dug up then charred with a wood fire. There is something going on there, and it all has to do with the primary goal, control over the world.

 

All of you enjoy being turned into mindless zombies!

 

You are completely wrong on all accounts. Al Qaeda publicly stated a while after the attacks that their target was the Capitol Building. 95% of the plane was recovered near Shanksville. 1,500+ human remains were recovered, allowing a positive ID of all passengers and crew. Personal effects of nearly all were recovered. Large parts of the plane were recovered, including most of one engine.

 

Enjoy being a mindless conspiracy zombie, btw.

 

You have no possible idea how many things there are to worry about on a daily basis,

 

Actually, I do. But I don't wear a bullet-proof vest when I go into town for fear of a drive-by shooting because I'm not paranoid.

 

Do you have any idea what the Bermuda Triangle is?

 

A cesspool of vaporizing pockets of methane?

 

Do you understand where the Atlantis story came from?

 

A legend, maybe?

 

Do you know the true history of our planet,

 

I never bothered learning the whole story, specifically, but seismologists, astrologists, and meteorologists did. Ask them.

 

what has past, and what is yet to come?

 

Dumb questions that don't deserve answers.

 

You have no idea what is dealt with day-in and day-out. There is more hidden from you than you than you could possibly imagine, so don't talk to me about Area 51, or outposts in the middle of nowhere...

 

Really? So you somehow know something about daily government projects that I don't? It won't help your view of me, but my father works under Battelle Energy Alliance (his actual place of work is a test reactor, the name of which I won't mention), which means I get quite a bit more information than you on energy programs much earlier than you'd think.

 

There is technology hidden from the average population that would be considered science fiction based on 600 years from now.

 

If you know about that, then I pray tell, explain to us, oh Wise One. Certainly if they could hide it that well then you wouldn't know about it, right?

Edited January 2, 2009 by Fiesta

[Doctor Destiny 41]

Trust me, you don't want me to come back, because i will come back with a grand army to trample your tree fort.

You don't have an army. You're incapable of even proving basic points without being walked all over.

 

You don't want me to come back and fix my mix ups and reinforce my swearing spaz (which was actually meant to be a joke! So the ban was unexpected...)

You have nothing to fix since there is... nothing to fix. You are wrong. Deal with it.

 

I have a lot more crap to serve.

That's all you've served all along, and that's all it will ever be - trite, parroted crap.

 

I laugh reading all your small minded blabbing about this that and the other thing

uh huh. Right. You're speaking as though you've discovered the grand scheme of things, when in fact, none of us mean **** in the cosmic sense.

 

I started this, DD didn't have to carry it on

I didn't carry it on. I defended my point of view from another misled twit.

 

I'll just wait and watch from my safe location as you all scramble like ants out of a destroyed nest looking for somewhere to go once the Central Bank unifies the world, which has already begun

Do you even study history?

 

The European Union was formed recently

1993 is recent? That's 15 years at the minimum. And the EU was predated by the EEC, which dates back to 1957. Hardly recent.

 

and the release of the Euro

OH NOES! Unify a monetary denomination. What a crime that is! Heaven forbid anyone make life easier on the retail industry, or customs agents. Since you've obviously forgotten to pay attention in history classes, the US, when it was only colonial states, had their own monetary denomination and it was a huge nuisance so then the US Treasury and Mints were put into place. And that's the 1700s so the idea of unified currency is far from new, and not a half bad idea really.

 

and there have been more continental unions

No there haven't.

 

and very soon to be the North American union which will be followed by the Amero

Sources? Proof?

 

and once all the uni9ons are formed it will start fusing into the one world government which will allow a thousand times more power in one location than is Globally safe.

ZOMG! SEKRET NUCKLEAR VOLCANO MOON BASE!

 

And what happens then? We can only hope it remains n our nightmares.

Your mother giving birth to you is a nightmare in and of itself.

 

There is more at stake that just who 'Killed' the Trade Centers...

The one time I'll agree with you. Savor it. It won't last long.

 

Adolf Hitler did the same thing, their enemies were terrorists, so they would willingly fight for whatever reason, under that Genius control.

This brings me back to my point about studying history. Do it sometime! Hitler did not attempt to exterminate the Jewish people because they were terrorists. They were impure and did not fit in with his Master Plan.

 

The most brilliant way to control someone: mess with their heads.

No one needed to be told that, you dunce.

 

One thing I will not fall for.

You already have.

 

A small child wanting everything the he/she sees on TV is a strongly noticeable example of an absolute weak mind.

Yeah, because everyone knows a six year old can grasp the cosmic sense. Try having fewer logical fallacies, you fool.

 

Waiting to be told what should be done, is exactly what you are being turned into, you are getting the weak mind of an infant.

You're always waiting for the next conspiracy bandwagon to jump on. You're a bigger tool than the rest of us.

 

I will not say anymore

You won't ignore us. You have a boner for conflict. I'd call you a troll but I'm pretty sure you believe your own insanity.

 

I'll simply watch what influenced ideas you come up with next.

So what original idea have you thrown out there?

 

What a destroyed existence to be one of billions of puppets of the world.

You're right there with everyone else.

 

The next great depression is showing it's nose around the corner, it will gain all the more power to the Central bank and the ones behind what was going on.

Recession maybe and there is no Central Bank. No such entity exists, or has existed.

 

All of you enjoy being turned into mindless zombies!

You first. You're already a drone to your own delusions.

 

Don't waste people's time with mindless insults, finding a person that look like they have mental issues and saying it is someone. I've heard terrible insults just like that in elementary school.

Are you stupid or stupid?

 

And the Amero being the least of our worries, it is a symbol to what is coming, and it is NOT a parody.

Source?

 

You have no possible idea how many things there are to worry about on a daily basis

I do but I'm not so paranoid that I let the fear run my life. What's the point of existence if you worry about what might happen?

 

Do you have any idea what the Bermuda Triangle is?

Yes.

 

Do you understand where the Atlantis story came from?

Fairy tales.

 

Do you know the true history of our planet, what has past, and what is yet to come?

The better question is do you?

 

You have no idea what is dealt with day-in and day-out.

Actually. I do.

 

There is more hidden from you than you than you could possibly imagine, so don't talk to me about Area 51, or outposts in the middle of nowhere...

If it's hidden from me, it's hidden from you too. Hell, the powers that be let you see what they want you to see so you chase ghosts looking for the wrong thing.

 

There is technology hidden from the average population that would be considered science fiction based on 600 years from now.

Since you have a hidden oracle, where is it, oh great one?

[sith_wampa 6]

Don't waste people's time with mindless insults, finding a person that look like they have mental issues and saying it is someone. I've heard terrible insults just like that in elementary school.

Insults? You haven't a clue the of about the insulting nature of what you say.

You have no possible idea how many things there are to worry about on a daily basis,

And what the **** makes you think that you do?

Do you have any idea what the Bermuda Triangle is? Do you understand where the Atlantis story came from? Do you know the true history of our planet, what has past, and what is yet to come?

And what if I didn't? Does this make you feel good about yourself? Making yourself believe that other people are inferior to you is what led to Nazi Germany. How's that for a history lesson?

You have no idea what is dealt with day-in and day-out. There is more hidden from you than you than you could possibly imagine,

Care to explain? Or are you to lazy? Or has your super human brain stopped working? And what makes you think that you have this idea you speak of?

There is technology hidden from the average population that would be considered science fiction based on 600 years from now.

Any evidence of this technology? What do you mean by hidden? What do you mean by average population? What exactly makes something 600 year-in-the-future technology?

 

 

I'm sorry, but if you expect us to believe that your 'super intelligence' is reason enough to believe even half the **** that comes out of your mouth, then there is no hope for you. If you don't want to think like a 'twitty human,' then try thinking beyond your own arrogance.

Edited January 2, 2009 by sith_wampa

[BlyTwo 0]

Of course you wouldn't produce any evidence of this because 'they' would find you...

No they know me, and I am not talking about the military or CIA or anything like that. Complete and global revelation of such shocking truth is very dangerous. Some things must be left secret until they can be shown.

 

 

Ha-HA! Excellent. I was getting bored.

I'm glad this doesn't bore you.

 

Bring on your guns, I'll readily deflect anything you shoot because you're just full of crap, and I'll have fun doing it.

What kind of armour? And I was referring to throwing piles of **** at your face...

 

Ohh, the same way your mind was warped by baseless, biased crap like Zeitgeist and Loose Change? Tool. Enjoy the destroyed puppet existence, a part of which you deny being.

Zeitgeist is not biased at all. Even if it were wrong, it still had facts and a reasonable conclusion, therefor not biased. And what the hell is Loose Change?

 

So... our great depression will benefit Muslim extremists? Sure, sport. That's totally the correct mindset. >_>

What the hell? Has nothing to do with Muslims

 

It was already explained before; the very fact that you can access that information without punishment is proof against theories. If they wanted a conspiracy to go unnoticed, they wouldn't do such a sloppy job with it.

Here is something to know, there are people that can outsmart other people, there is likely to be a person smarter than the conspirators.

 

Some people, maybe terrorists, are smart enough to take advantage of security teams' inexperience and slip a plane into a 3rd building amidst the chaos that is being given all the focus, that being the WTC towers. ALL passengers and crew but one were successfully identified through methods you obviously haven't considered as your idea of forensics technology is 30 years behind. What makes you think going around a hotel makes a difference as to how close a plane is being allowed to fly to a building?

Many of the hijackers of the planes that hit the WTC's were found alive.

 

Holdable pieces? Maybe by several people.

But carriable nonetheless.

 

 

You are completely wrong on all accounts. Al Qaeda publicly stated a while after the attacks that their target was the Capitol Building. 95% of the plane was recovered near Shanksville. 1,500+ human remains were recovered, allowing a positive ID of all passengers and crew. Personal effects of nearly all were recovered. Large parts of the plane were recovered, including most of one engine.

There was nothing but a charred hole at Shanksville.

 

Actually, I do. But I don't wear a bullet-proof vest when I go into town for fear of a drive-by shooting because I'm not paranoid.

I don't mean it in that sense I meant what the planet has to worry about. And from the hand held weaponry I've seen, a bullet proof vest is equivalent to tissue paper.

 

A cesspool of vaporizing pockets of methane?

Or UFO's, or magnetic disturbances running ships in circles getting trapped in storms (including aircraft) Watch the movie the triangle to get a basic on theories, and have a cool story with it. But no, it is more of an electro-magnetic powersource for something big.

 

A legend, maybe?

All fairy tales have an origin.

 

 

I never bothered learning the whole story, specifically, but seismologists, astrologists, and meteorologists did. Ask them.

The age of our planet and the thought length of evolution, the dawn was longer ago than you think.

 

Dumb questions that don't deserve answers.

Recent history: last 2000 years, earlier history: last 6000 years, distant history: 10 000 000 years, true distant 100 000 000 years, and still here 1 000 000 000 years. What is yet to come has to do with what happened before the dinosaurs.

 

 

Really? So you somehow know something about daily government projects that I don't? It won't help your view of me, but my father works under Battelle Energy Alliance (his actual place of work is a test reactor, the name of which I won't mention), which means I get quite a bit more information than you on energy programs much earlier than you'd think.

I'm talking bigger than government projects. Minor relevance. And If i cared, I could learn about it long before he did.

 

If you know about that, then I pray tell, explain to us, oh Wise One. Certainly if they could hide it that well then you wouldn't know about it, right?

I know it because I am around it. A whole other faction, a world faction, that keeps completely silent no matter what. Populated with precisely 26 492 people it has been around for centuries, always years ahead in technology.

 

 

You don't have an army. You're incapable of even proving basic points without being walked all over.

I don't have the patience or time to get a source for you.

 

You have nothing to fix since there is... nothing to fix. You are wrong. Deal with it.

I am unable to deal with an nonfactual statement.

 

That's all you've served all along, and that's all it will ever be - trite, parroted crap.

I was referring to throwing piles of **** at your face...

 

I defended my point of view from another misled twit.

Another mindless insult.

 

 

Do you even study history?

Not particularly. But I know the very basics.

 

1993 is recent? That's 15 years at the minimum. And the EU was predated by the EEC, which dates back to 1957. Hardly recent.

I consider the last 100 years quite recent.

 

OH NOES! Unify a monetary denomination. What a crime that is! Heaven forbid anyone make life easier on the retail industry, or customs agents. Since you've obviously forgotten to pay attention in history classes, the US, when it was only colonial states, had their own monetary denomination and it was a huge nuisance so then the US Treasury and Mints were put into place. And that's the 1700s so the idea of unified currency is far from new, and not a half bad idea really.

Canadian history classes are actual history, the American history is modified and glorified, making the USA look better in people's eyes, compare the education systems yourself. A unified currency allows control over the continent by one company.

 

No there haven't.

Uh ya;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Union

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_South_American_Nations

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7417896.stm

 

Sources? Proof?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amero

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...va&aid=7854

http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/1999/10/05/c...ency991005.html

 

ZOMG! SEKRET NUCKLEAR VOLCANO MOON BASE!

Nuclear volcanic moon base? What?

 

The one time I'll agree with you. Savor it. It won't last long.

Says someone who has agreed with me before...

 

 

This brings me back to my point about studying history. Do it sometime! Hitler did not attempt to exterminate the Jewish people because they were terrorists. They were impure and did not fit in with his Master Plan.

I never really sad that, i meant it is all the same basis, create some sort of enemy, and encourage.

 

You already have.

Coming from influenced lips.

 

You're always waiting for the next conspiracy bandwagon to jump on. You're a bigger tool than the rest of us.

Uh, no. I have only been on two or three conspiracies, and always will remain on those few until one is either solved undeniably, or no longer is relevant.

 

 

You won't ignore us. You have a boner for conflict. I'd call you a troll but I'm pretty sure you believe your own insanity.

A boner? No. And your probably right, this may go on for a long time.

 

So what original idea have you thrown out there?

The one that no one has heard of.

 

You're right there with everyone else.

See there is where you hit the wall,

 

there is no Central Bank. No such entity exists, or has existed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_bank

http://www.newyorkfed.org/

http://www.federalreserve.gov/

 

 

Are you stupid or stupid?

I pic the 'or'.

 

I do but I'm not so paranoid that I let the fear run my life. What's the point of existence if you worry about what might happen?

Then there is no paranoia at all in this argument.

 

 

Yes.

Really?

 

 

Fairy tales.

There always is an origin.

 

The better question is do you?

Yes I do, we are on our second full cycle of evolution. The previous left our planet, and allowed evolution to continue.

 

Actually. I do.

Please share.

 

If it's hidden from me, it's hidden from you too. Hell, the powers that be let you see what they want you to see so you chase ghosts looking for the wrong thing.

It is not, I am inside.

 

Since you have a hidden oracle, where is it, oh great one?

It is everywhere, you just need to open your eyes and broaden your mind, and trust more in you peripheral vision. Those random things you may see in the corner of your eye are usually put aside, when in fact you can focus better on your central vision, but you can see more in your peripheral.

 

Insults? You haven't a clue the of about the insulting nature of what you say.

Actually I do, fight fire with plasma state matter.

 

And what the **** makes you think that you do?

I believe i have already mentioned it.

 

And what if I didn't? Does this make you feel good about yourself? Making yourself believe that other people are inferior to you is what led to Nazi Germany. How's that for a history lesson?

It is the truth that is to be said.

 

Care to explain? Or are you to lazy? Or has your super human brain stopped working? And what makes you think that you have this idea you speak of?

I never said superhuman, just above average.

 

Any evidence of this technology? What do you mean by hidden? What do you mean by average population? What exactly makes something 600 year-in-the-future technology?

Evidence not an option at this present time. Not seen by anyone but the 26 492 people, and others elsewhere. I said it would be considered sci-fi tech from 600 years from now. Complete and global revelation of such shocking truth would cause chaos, and therefor is dangerous. There is great reason for keeping a great secret. Every action towards revelation, is carefully examined, and voted upon among the council.

 

I'm sorry, but if you expect us to believe that your 'super intelligence' is reason enough to believe even half the **** that comes out of your mouth, then there is no hope for you. If you don't want to think like a 'twitty human,' then try thinking beyond your own arrogance.

I said above average. Humanoid thoughts, arrogance, dullwitted, exaggeration. I am working on it, though it may be impossible.

Edited January 2, 2009 by BlyTwo

[Alphabear 11]

I have absolute undeniable facts that prove everything you have said wrong, I'm just too lazy to post it. But trust me because I am far more intelligent and thus can never be subjected to bias so obviously I am infallible.

[Nmenth 291]

I know it because I am around it. A whole other faction, a world faction, that keeps completely silent no matter what. Populated with precisely 26 492 people it has been around for centuries, always years ahead in technology.

I'm not sure what this secret faction you say you are in is supposed to be, but since I'm not new to conspiracy theorists, I'll toss the Illuminati out there.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Union

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_South_American_Nations

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7417896.stm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amero

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...va&aid=7854

http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/1999/10/05/c...ency991005.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_bank

http://www.newyorkfed.org/

http://www.federalreserve.gov/

Good to see you are finally posting sources, so far only for the most minor of debate points, but, hey, it's a start.

 

Uh, no. I have only been on two or three conspiracies, and always will remain on those few until one is either solved undeniably, or no longer is relevant.

I'll bet...

 

Yes I do, we are on our second full cycle of evolution. The previous left our planet, and allowed evolution to continue.

I'm not sure what to say about this...

It hampers any credibility you may have earned by actually finding sources though...

I hope this doesn't somehow lead up to some whacko Nibiru theory...

[BlyTwo 0]

I'm not sure what this secret faction you say you are in is supposed to be

It is a faction organized after a few geniuses forming a secret organization, with a primary goal to create a time machine. It eventually grew with supporters and enthusiasts, and after a hundred years or so, it became a full on military possessing faction. Any invention that was ahead the 'modern tech' was taken and assimilated. The time machine was eventually finished on Friday, January 27th, 1995 because of an unknown element now named Chronon Ionite (not the best name, was named by a scientist who had little knowledge of Latin meanings) that fell in a meteor. This element will never be listed on the table of contents because it doesn't fit, and no one will ever hear of it. Now with having all the technology of the human race, and more we can do practically anything. But where the problem lies is one of the scientists left with all the information to build his own time machine and it eventually formed a rival.

 

I'm not sure what to say about this...

I'm not surprised.

[Nmenth 291]

I had seen your time machine madness before on your clan site.

I had hoped you weren't serious.

I have now been led to conclude one of two things, you are insane, or you have been joking around the whole time.

[BlyTwo 0]

That site I kinda half made months ago and time machine stuff is not on that site anyways.

And the Operation TimeShift is a time machine based C&C3 mission map I made.

 

I haven't been on that site for ages.

Edited January 2, 2009 by BlyTwo

[Nmenth 291]

Not talking about the map. You used to have a description on that site about some time machine nonsense.

I guess it's at http://blytwo.synthasite.com/ now.

[Fiesta 0]

What kind of armour? And I was referring to throwing piles of **** at your face...

 

You already do that, and I've been cleaning off all of that **** and laughing in your face.

 

 

Zeitgeist is not biased at all. Even if it were wrong, it still had facts and a reasonable conclusion, therefor not biased. And what the hell is Loose Change?

 

Its segment on the 9/11 attacks was biased and baseless. Wait... you're a conspiracy buff and you've never seen Loose Change? I about had a heart attack.

 

What the hell? Has nothing to do with Muslims

 

You made it sound that way since Muslims were responsible.

 

Here is something to know, there are people that can outsmart other people, there is likely to be a person smarter than the conspirators.

 

You mean like myself, DD, nmenth, etc.? We've put on a much smarter show than you.

 

Many of the hijackers of the planes that hit the WTC's were found alive.

 

By who? Where? Are you sure this isn't a case of mistaken identity and/or the fact that several people living in the middle east had the same names as the hijackers? Where's your source? Wait, you don't have one. Again.

 

There was nothing but a charred hole at Shanksville.

 

That's all you wanted to see, of course. Both "black boxes" were recovered. The cockpit voice recorder recorded the hijackers' assault and the passenger counterattack. If you don't want to believe this, that's your fault for being a blind fool.

 

EDIT; For your (in)convenience, I've also gathered a few links to the transcript of what the cockpit voice recorder captured:

 

http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/evidence/flight93cvr.html

 

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/images/04/12/f....transcript.pdf

 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,191520,00.html

 

I don't mean it in that sense I meant what the planet has to worry about. And from the hand held weaponry I've seen, a bullet proof vest is equivalent to tissue paper.

 

What sort of hand-held weaponry? The 100 ton nuclear shoulder-launched RPGs that the Army can use to vaporise shipyards in the blink of an eye? Sure, whatever.

 

Or UFO's, or magnetic disturbances running ships in circles getting trapped in storms (including aircraft) Watch the movie the triangle to get a basic on theories, and have a cool story with it. But no, it is more of an electro-magnetic powersource for something big.

 

No, you damned idiot. My response was serious and correct. Yours is a jumbled garbage heap of theories and fantasies.

 

All fairy tales have an origin.

 

Go find it, then. As far as public knowledge is concerned, it's a simple legend and nothing more.

 

The age of our planet and the thought length of evolution, the dawn was longer ago than you think.

 

So... the experts that have determined our planet's age to be ~4.3 billion years old are wrong? OK...

 

Recent history: last 2000 years, earlier history: last 6000 years, distant history: 10 000 000 years, true distant 100 000 000 years, and still here 1 000 000 000 years. What is yet to come has to do with what happened before the dinosaurs.

 

Sure it does.

 

I'm talking bigger than government projects. Minor relevance. And If i cared, I could learn about it long before he did.

 

Riiiiiiiiight.

 

I know it because I am around it. A whole other faction, a world faction, that keeps completely silent no matter what. Populated with precisely 26 492 people it has been around for centuries, always years ahead in technology.

 

What the **** are you talking about?? At this point I HAVE to assume you're overdosing on some kind of hallucinogenic drug.

Edited January 2, 2009 by Fiesta

[sith_wampa 6]

I love how Blytwo can't provide any sources that help his argument. The ones he posted did not help him, but as Nmenth said it was better than nothing. And I like how this 'organization' that has yet to be named has a similar history tho the Command and Conquer timeline. That really had me burst out laughing. If you really were 'inside' such an organization, wouldn't you be cut off from the rest of the world? If what you say is true, and this organization is really this important, then why have you been allowed to tell us lesser peoples about it?

 

Again, Blytwo, you miss the point of almost everything that is said to you. And its great how we tell you that you missed the point and you still don't get it. So much for that great intelligence of yours you seem so proud of.

 

The amount of blind rambling that Blytwo has provided is mind blowing. I have not seen one believable and properly supported idea come from him yet. Correct me if I'm wrong, but do so properly, if you even know what that is.

 

And if you are so intelligent, then you would know that referencing conspiracy movies is not the way to convince us lesser minded of anything besides the fact you have no idea what you are talking about. You are going to have to come down to our level to communicate effectively, you know that, oh wise one.

 

Seriously, when piecing together everything you have said, I come to the conclusion that you are a mentally unstable kid who woke up hungover one morning and wrote down every crazy thing that happened in your dreams. And if I had to guess, I would say this is all you ever think about, day and night. You're life is so bad that you've put yourself into an alternate reality where you are some sort of superior being in a cult of superior people. And the fact that this is similar to C&C only supports my theory.

[BlyTwo 0]

Its segment on the 9/11 attacks was biased and baseless. Wait... you're a conspiracy buff and you've never seen Loose Change? I about had a heart attack.

It was legitimate. It's facts did fit, and made perfect sense, if it were biased it would not make any sense and would be completely irrational. If it were factual or not it made sense and was full of deep thought and research.

 

You made it sound that way since Muslims were responsible.

Not really...

 

You mean like myself, DD, nmenth, etc.?

No.

 

Are you sure this isn't a case of mistaken identity and/or the fact that several people living in the middle east had the same names as the hijackers?

Yes

 

That's all you wanted to see, of course. Both "black boxes" were recovered. The cockpit voice recorder recorded the hijackers' assault and the passenger counterattack. If you don't want to believe this, that's your fault for being a blind fool.

Do you have the black box? And those pictures could have been taken anywhere. The scenery was different in each picture, the whole was there as if a plane hit in one piece there, burned and is now gone, and also the plane would have been more intact, look at this and this. The only way it would be blown apart like that would be if it was full of impact detonating explosives.

 

1. http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/evidence/flight93cvr.html

 

2. http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/images/04/12/f....transcript.pdf

 

3. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,191520,00.html

1. Cheap site, could have easily be made by a group of biased debunkers.

2. Don't have Acrobat.

3. The transmission could have been set up, or there just was no real transition.

 

What sort of hand-held weaponry? The 100 ton nuclear shoulder-launched RPGs that the Army can use to vaporise shipyards in the blink of an eye? Sure, whatever.

I meant Pulse Rifles/Pistols, and Electro-magnetic wave emitters (on a massive scale, or even small can disrupt or even rearrange atoms, and therefor be able do pierce any armor, but large weapons like that just aren't build, because of the danger of a reverse EM Shockwave), and highly efficient Railguns (which is now considered old technology), and Particle acceleration emitters (which on a massive scale could blow apart a planet).

 

No, you damned idiot. My response was serious and correct. Yours is a jumbled garbage heap of theories and fantasies.

For one you put a question mark, and for two, have you personally been there? Have you personally experienced these 'gas pockets'? And how is there such a continuous releasing of this 'gas'?

 

Go find it, then. As far as public knowledge is concerned, it's a simple legend and nothing more.

Exactly, 'public knowledge'

 

So... the experts that have determined our planet's age to be ~4.3 billion years old are wrong? OK...

Not determined at all, estimated, all science is best guess with what information has been given to the one who discovered it.

 

Sure it does.

Sarcasm is another product of the weak mind.

 

Riiiiiiiiight.

Those kind of comments are worthless.

 

What the **** are you talking about?? At this point I HAVE to assume you're overdosing on some kind of hallucinogenic drug.

I don't even know what drugs are hallucinogenic. What ones are? I couldn't possible be taking one, because i don't take any drugs or prescriptions.

 

I like how this 'organization' that has yet to be named

It is nicknamed simply "The Union" or 'United Forces of Global Defense' ((UFGD)I have named my clan after it.) and it's rival 'The Allied Rebellion against Global Oppression' (ARGO).

 

And I like how this 'organization' that has yet to be named has a similar history tho the Command and Conquer timeline.

BTW, NOD is an extremely cliché secret organization, based on a generic fictional secret organization, in which this does not relate.

 

If you really were 'inside' such an organization, wouldn't you be cut off from the rest of the world? If what you say is true, and this organization is really this important, then why have you been allowed to tell us lesser peoples about it?

Not at all. Being cut off lessens integrity of your mental stability and general effectiveness. And family member and friends would wonder where the hell you went. Telling them that you died in the woods somewhere from a bear attack or something would permanently disturb the family. Because it is beyond necessary to alert the world of the truth, but sudden and complete revelation of the true knowledge of what has happened would, like i said, cause global chaos, and possibly send a majority of the population back into the dark ages. The only solution is to slowly spread the truth around starting from forums and mostly we send out and have people go after chosen candidates for assimilation into the network, and likely into the United Colonial Navy, the main military of the organization.

 

you would know that referencing conspiracy movies is not the way to convince us lesser minded of anything besides the fact you have no idea what you are talking about.

****. I told you once, and i will say it again. The movie is what got me going on the topic, and is simply a compilation of facts, that everyone saw (regarding 9/11). It is not my main reference. And explain to me why the home site has be taken down, and then they managed to move it and start it up again, and then the site is taken down again. Do you have an explanation? It is only available by filesharing, and cannot be found as an official video in any shop.

 

oh wise one.

That is really getting annoying!

 

I come to the conclusion that you are a mentally unstable kid who woke up hungover one morning and wrote down every crazy thing that happened in your dreams.

One, I hate drugs and would kill anyone who tries to give it to others if I could. I also dislike alcohol. And I almost never have dreams. There is nothing crazy about it anyways, it is only unbelievable to some, but some Ii have enlightened has seen the light.

 

And if I had to guess, I would say this is all you ever think about, day and night.

I wonder about whether I do the right thing the days I leave for battle in the union.

 

You're life is so bad that you've put yourself into an alternate reality where you are some sort of superior being in a cult of superior people.

My life is incredible because of the Union. And my home life is great, my mom is funny, my brother is cool. My dad can be irritating, but nothing terrible. And I am on my computer all the time gaming with friends etc.

 

And the fact that this is similar to C&C only supports my theory.

If there are any game or movie relations it came from there first.

Edited January 3, 2009 by BlyTwo

[sith_wampa 6]

You mean to say that you don't go to school? Well that explains alot.

[Alphabear 11]

So how do we go about joining this ARGO?

[Nmenth 291]

Yeah, considering who the UFGD are willing to recruit, ARGO surely is the better choice.

[BlyTwo 0]

Yeah, considering who the UFGD are willing to recruit, ARGO surely is the better choice.

Unfortunately ARGO could care less about the fate of our planet. The machine, Atlantis, we have come to call the Omega Device, we're not entirely sure what it does, but it is almost complete it's charge cycle that has thought to have taken 3 billion years. It was created on our planet even before the previous cycle of evolution. The ones we believe to have built it seemed to have a complete understanding of the universe, a race we call Prometheian. For a race that was here at least 3 billion years ago, now is either extinct, or has left to another galaxy. The previous dominant species of our planet developed similar to us, because they evolved under the same conditions to us. So understanding their thought process isn't all that difficult, but understanding Prometheian is another story. The UFGD isn't willing to recruit anyone, the watch over all and pick out the ones with potential in at least one useful area, mine being combat strategy, pistol accuracy, staying alive, and small craft piloting.

 

You mean to say that you don't go to school?

I wish I didn't, I am sick of that slow paced, only half true crap. ex. A school text-book said that the LHC (or it's relatives) was for simulating the 'big bang' (which has already been disproved within the Union). I am educated with the facts and history needed in the Union mostly. When I am urgently needed, a self powered matter rearranger creates a physical hologram of me. My personality, memory and knowledge are downloaded into the device, and no one will ever possibly realize that it isn't me.

 

If you were to be C&C geeky you could compare this to GDI and NOD.

UFGD = trying to ensure we continue existence.

ARGO = wants the Omega Device all for themselves, and if the device brings the planet with them, they don't care, they'll just fly somewhere else.

The initial rivalry was who could get the better technology first, and it slowly turned into blood wars. Now there are battlefields that span larger than the moon's diameter.

Strongly considering joining the Alliance is a huge mistake, in times like these willingly looking to get your way into either side is a sentence to death.

Edited January 3, 2009 by BlyTwo

[sith_wampa 6]

You are the biggest troll I have ever seen.