Religious beliefs

[dapperdan 0]

Due to the fact that we as human can evolve said computer software, that in turn makes us slightly egotistical, to some extent, so surely the fact that a god evolves us would make him slighlty egotistical.

[J-Fire_Man 0]

God has the full right for all in the universe. God can do anything to us, because God is the one who made us. So do human can do anything to what they made. It's up to you wether you want to throw off your creation such as handicraft.

[dapperdan 0]

just saying that it would appear god is hipacritical.

[Doctor Destiny 41]

this universe is the proof. Everything has been set up so correctly with no mistake, as the scientist said about the beginning of the universe, if God is too slow in creating this universe even if it's only 0.0000001 secon, the universe will be in chaos. I requires ultimate power to create the universe, far different than creating Human Technology.

So where's the proof of this almighty creator? You can say it all you want but it doesn't make it true. If enough people spew the same lie long enough, people actually believe it's the truth. That's just too perfect for this situation. God is a lie. See? I can say the same bull**** but that doesn't mean it's true. Factless rantings are a two-way street.

 

Is it? This can't describe the beginning of everything. The darwin's theory is just ridicolous, and many other theories not base by religion. For example, robots do evoluting, if you still remember what's the form of robot 5 years ago, it looks really stupid compared to today's humanoid robots. Robots didn't evolute by itself, it's the creator, human that evolute them. So do God evolute the universe, including animals, human, etc.

Evolution makes more sense than "boom; here we are." So basically what you're saying is that any non-religious theory should be discarded and tossed aside because it doesn't agree with your one-track thoughts? Oh well, that's the kind of nonsense I've come to expect from people who actually believe in the "almighty creator."

 

Please don't make false comparisons, kthx. The universe has been around longer than religion can account for. According to religion, the Earth has been in existance for only approximately 6000 years when we know this to very untrue. The Earth is about 4.6 billion years in age. Where did that extra time go? Thinking logically, something religious folks are very scared of, we can assume that life did not begin with humans, thus making Genesis, the very book that explains our creation, 100% FALSE. What I find amusing is that the Bible totally omits dinosaurs and never explains their presence.

 

Our purpose is to serve God no matter the cost and life in this temporary human flesh until you died and wait for the judgement day.

Complete bull****. There's no good response for such bull****.

 

The life of a person is a great matter. If your mother or most beloved one is in critical condition and probably going to die, what will you do? Preventing his/her to die isn't it?

I'd rather see my mother die in peace than live in agony. Yes, it's a very hard decision and it would inevitably bring tears to my eyes but I'd rather her have peace than suffering.

 

I affraid that future without the faith in God will be barren like dessert.

Other way around buddy.

 

Ahh, Mr. luk3us, robot is just another form of life made from the superiority of human brain. It's another dimension of life. Robot this day still can think like human, but one day I'm sure they will, since both human brain and robots' AI are evoluting along with time. You deny that God is the one who evolve us because God's hand is invicible, not like human. God is just far more powerfull than us. We won't be able to surpass God, because we're the God's creations.

The robot 'brain' is built like a computer. It' performs tasks in a mundane manner so in effect, it doesn't have free will nor can it think for itself. Robots don't evolve at all; we upgrade them over time as we see fit. Humans, on the other hand, evolved as a result of environmental factors so they could adapt to their surroundings to survive. Evolution is a slow process. By the same token, robots should take the same millions of years to evolve like we did.

[Ghostalker 0]

I'm a Chinese, but instead of Buddhism or Taoism, I like Egyption polytheistic.

[Acerz492 1]

The universe has been around longer than religion can account for. According to religion, the Earth has been in existance for only approximately 6000 years when we know this to very untrue. The Earth is about 4.6 billion years in age. Where did that extra time go? Thinking logically, something religious folks are very scared of, we can assume that life did not begin with humans, thus making Genesis, the very book that explains our creation, 100% FALSE. What I find amusing is that the Bible totally omits dinosaurs and never explains their presence.

 

What I find more amusing is explaining this to fundamentalists on the street, and pointing and laughing in their faces while theyr'e stuttering and spluttering trying to come up with a good response. Especially the bit about Dinosaurs..ask them why we're discovering their fossilized remains when they were never mentioned in the Bible.

 

Pwned!

[F15pilotX 4]

Whoa...hold up there acerz...it does mention dinosaurs...reference:

 

Isaiah 27:1

In that day the Lord with His severe sword, great and strong, Will punish Leviathan the fleeing serpent, Leviathan that twisted serpent; And He will slay the reptile that is in the sea.

A sea serpant...dinosaur

If you want more, ask

 

PWNED

[Doctor Destiny 41]

A sea serpent is not a dinosaur. Leviathian is a demon like Satan. :roll:

[F15pilotX 4]

No it's not; where did you get that idea?

[Doctor Destiny 41]

The whole mythical creatures thing. You know, a myth... something that doesn't ****ing exist. I'd say Leviathan is a water demon... Maybe you should watch more InuYasha.

 

Back to the topic at hand, there are no dinosaurs in the Bible. It starts with the Garden and Adam and Eve. Where be them dinosaurs? :roll:

[F15pilotX 4]

If I must give another example:

Job 41:15-19

"Look now at the behemoth, which I made along with you; he eats grass like an ox. Se now, his strength is in his hips, and his power is in his stomach muscles. He moves his tail like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are tightly knit. His bones are like beams of bronze, his ribs like bars of iron. He is the first of the ways of God; Only He who made him can bring near His sword."

 

Tail like a cedar

bones like beams of bronze

ribs like bars of iron

 

sound enough like a dinosaur for you :wink:

-check it for yourself if you want to: that was an exact translation from the New King James Bible-

[Saracen 16]

Sounds more like Goliath to me...

[Acerz492 1]

Leviathan was a Biblical sea monster referred to in passing in the Old Testament (Psalms 74:13-14; Job 41; Isaiah 27:1).

 

Not a Dinosaur. :roll:

 

Behemoth is the untranslated name of an amphibious animal mentioned in the Book of Job, 40:15-24. Suggestions (note, suggestions!) as to his identity include a hippopotamus, a water buffalo, an elephant, and a dinosaur.

 

Most probably, בהמות bəhēmôth is plural for בהמה bəhēmāh, meaning "animals" in Hebrew, this structure (pluralis excellentieae, used to express greatness by means of pluralizing the noun) indicates that behemoth is the largest and most powerful animal. Behemoth is the primal unconquerable monster of the land, as Leviathan is the primal monster of the waters of the sea, for this is no mere giant hippopotamus but "He is the first [Authorized Version "chief"] of the ways of God." (Job 40:19) Yet, in (Job 40:17) the "tail' could be an euphemism for "penis," a male sex organ. Or perhaps it could literally be its tail or the trunk of an elephant. This indicates that Behemoth is described as a giant powerful mammal. (Mitchell, 1987) In verse 15, it is suggested that the Behemoth is a herbivore.

 

Although it suggests that Behemoth may be a dinosaur, it's description is more that of a Hippopotamus.

 

So, not a Dinosaur.

 

Behemoth is a hippo and Leviathan is a giant water-snake. End of story. :roll:

[F15pilotX 4]

Have you ever heard of a hippo with a tail as big as a cedar tree?

also, it sea serpants are most of the time considered dinosaurs :wink:

Some examples of sea dinosaurs

[Acerz492 1]

Mate, anyone who knows his dinosaurs knows that none of those types of marine-dwelling dinosaurs look like sea serpents. Sea Serpents are basically massive snakes, as we all -should- know. :roll:

 

The page proves nothing. It shows examples of marine-dwelling dinosaurs, but where are the sea serpents? Sea Serpents are -not- considered dinosaurs at all, they are described as such, because both dinosaurs and sea serpents are rather large in size. BUT! That dosen't mean to say that they -are- dinosaurs. Like I've already stated, Sea Serpents are bloody snakes! The word Serpent, as it is my general understanding, is another term for....dumdumdada! A Snake!

 

Have you ever heard of a hippo with a tail as big as a cedar tree?

 

:roll: I don't really know what you're talking about. Are you trying to tell me that because a hippo has a tail that large, that it -must- be a Dinosaur? Because it says in the Bible? Pfft, that's like saying, "God killed 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered. Yet, he loves EVERYBODY!" :roll: Superflorous.

 

There is no mention of Dinosaurs, in the bible, period. Stop trying to tell us otherwise. :roll:

 

This is becoming pointless, so let's get back on topic shall we?

[Cygnus X-1 12]

the garden on eden is not a literal story. it is metamorphical, like much of the old testament (but definetly not ALL) and like Revelations.

[Acerz492 1]

Yet there are some people out there who take the silly Old Testement far too seriously. :roll:

 

Those people are the same kinda of people who want Creationism taught over Evolution in Science classes. :roll:

 

Like these silly buggers here. :roll:

[Doctor Destiny 41]

the garden on eden is not a literal story. it is metamorphical, like much of the old testament (but definetly not ALL) and like Revelations.

What's next? The 10 Commandments are just a metaphor? :roll:

[F15pilotX 4]

Acerz, PLEASE do not get me started on evolution

[Acerz492 1]

Hah, well what do you think on Evolution? Beingthis is a Religious Beliefs topic I think it's still on-topic, so tell us all what you think about Evolution.

[Guest Rabbit]

We evolved. End of story

[Cygnus X-1 12]

well....

 

Being a Catholic....I still think we evolved. But God/Bob/Allah/that one guy/whoever budged the meteor or lightning or whatever started life off

[Acerz492 1]

I don't think a lightning storm is considered an "Act of God", Cygnus... :wink:

 

I don't believe there was any deity involved in the beginning of life on Earth. If there was, I mean, hell, he's had roughly 3 million years to try and get into contact with humanity, and about 4 billion years to make contact with any other forms of life that have existed in the timeframe of Earth's life.

 

If there were a deity involved, show me some solid evidence, some hard proof. But seeing as that's impossible, I'm sticking with the Evolution theory.

[F15pilotX 4]

I don't think a lightning storm is considered an "Act of God", Cygnus... :wink:

 

I don't believe there was any deity involved in the beginning of life on Earth. If there was, I mean, hell, he's had roughly 3 million years to try and get into contact with humanity, and about 4 billion years to make contact with any other forms of life that have existed in the timeframe of Earth's life.

 

If there were a deity involved, show me some solid evidence, some hard proof. But seeing as that's impossible, I'm sticking with the Evolution theory.

Two things:

a. How do you know it was 3 or 4 billion years ago???

b. Prove that God wasn't involved.

[Guest Rabbit]

If there were a deity involved, show me some solid evidence, some hard proof. But seeing as that's impossible, I'm sticking with the Evolution theory.

 

Actually, lightning is what they believe did start us off (scientist's I mean).

 

They said, before there was life, a lightning storm caused bolts of electricity that somehow put atoms together and created very simple compounds, and then, eventually it turned into bacteria.